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Re: The Last Message Sent on AIM

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It was such a senseless destruction. People miss AIM, people miss MSN Messenger and just a couple years later it turned out instant messaging platforms were worth billions. It's still insane to me these corporations shut down perfectly viable platforms that were still used by millions. The short sightedness and pettiness of these directors is something of legend, I hope there's a chapter about this in new management…

Generally speaking, they were shut down because they were designed in a way that they were centrally controlled by one entity which had the ability to shut them down, just like that.

Discord, google chat, WhatsApp slack, Telegram, MsTeams, almost all commonly used chat clients are centrally managed..

Re: The Last Message Sent on AIM

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> Then, I need to find a second to let them know of this (unless I either totally drop the ball or consciously decide to not reply). This seems strange to me. I view IM as asynchronous. If someone messages me while I'm busy, I'll just reply later. And I don't expect people to answer immediatly. No need to sync to chat together (of course if we're both available we can chat in sync).

Indeed, if I want synchronous chat, I'll make a phone call. If I want a response at some point I'll send a message.

This was talking on the phone for people who don't like talking on the phone. If that makes any sense.

Re: The Last Message Sent on AIM

#56
post #20

It was such a senseless destruction. People miss AIM, people miss MSN Messenger and just a couple years later it turned out instant messaging platforms were worth billions. It's still insane to me these corporations shut down perfectly viable platforms that were still used by millions. The short sightedness and pettiness of these directors is something of legend, I hope there's a chapter about this in new management…

I think it's as you said, corporations didn't recognize the economic value of chat platforms back then. I think they were mostly focused on "Web 2.0" stuff so they probably tried putting all of their resources into that. You often see companies axe perfectly good business units just because they have a slightly lower margin or contribution to overall revenue, as they think putting the people from those units into the…

> We can see Google doing this over and over: They actually create a lot of nice products that could be profitable on their own, but since the main Google products are just making much more money per employee it still makes sense for them to axe the small "winning products" and have almost everyone work on the big winners.

Even 10 years ago they've been very explicit about this strategy internally. Management talks about it as "putting more wood behind fewer arrows".

Its somewhat self reinforcing. I didn't try Google Inbox because I was sure it would be axed in a couple years anyway. (And I was right.) The more people make that same assumption, the fewer people try anything new from Google. And the worse any new products' metrics are - which in turn makes google axe more otherwise good products.

Re: The Last Message Sent on AIM

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Generally speaking, they were shut down because they were designed in a way that they were centrally controlled by one entity which had the ability to shut them down, just like that.

Discord, google chat, WhatsApp slack, Telegram, MsTeams, almost all commonly used chat clients are centrally managed..

Yes, and they work fine for now, but their long-term viability is far from guaranteed for this reason.

Re: The Last Message Sent on AIM

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post #20

It was such a senseless destruction. People miss AIM, people miss MSN Messenger and just a couple years later it turned out instant messaging platforms were worth billions. It's still insane to me these corporations shut down perfectly viable platforms that were still used by millions. The short sightedness and pettiness of these directors is something of legend, I hope there's a chapter about this in new management…

I’m still pissed that MSN Messenger died but the hot garbage of Skype continued. I wish the pick for in org chat was MSN and not Skype. Back in 2004 we had chat history, now MS had to come up with the behemoth of Teams to provide that feature.

All we needed was msn on Android and iPhone with cloud backup of chats, that’s if.

Re: The Last Message Sent on AIM

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Discord, google chat, WhatsApp slack, Telegram, MsTeams, almost all commonly used chat clients are centrally managed..

Yes, and they work fine for now, but their long-term viability is far from guaranteed for this reason.

On a lighter note, "In the long term, we are all dead"
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