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Re: Little League wants all your information

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Post by xenihn »

felipellrocha wrote: post #39
throwawaygulf wrote: post #4

I'm just starting to forge documents for this garbage. School records? Easy, download them, change my address to one a few miles away in the same city, change a few numbers of my SSN, etc. Same goes for utility bills, financial records, etc. Fuck the data miners. The isn't even criminal to do because I'm not defrauding anyone. The address is still one in my city. They never do any actual verification so it always wor…

This sounds like a good problem to solve. Give me your address, and if someone asks, and you are ok with, i can verify you live in said (country/county/city) but not tell the exact location. Obviously, there is a problem of trust in the first place to solve, but i fee like this sort of data escrow could be useful to a lot of people.

Dat escrow -- this is basically what background check orgs providers, right? Assuming you don't need to provide something like your social.

Re: Little League wants all your information

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Post by FloatArtifact »

dragonwriter wrote: post #106
alisonkisk wrote: post #101

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's a very US perspective. In nations with socialized health care, there's no liability to worry about.

Little League is a very US institution, but even in places with socialized healthcare there are non-medical costs of injuries and potential liability attached to them, and anyway, while universal coverage is common outside of the US, many nations acheive it without socialized medicine.

"while universal coverage is common outside of the US, many nations acheive it without socialized medicine."

Can you expound on that further and provide some sources for future reading?

Re: Little League wants all your information

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Post by hammock »

aiisahik wrote: post #55

Speaking as someone who is has done this in their career, the data trove here would be extremely easy to monetize. No Hedge fund / Fintech company would ever turn this kinda data down the yearly licensing fee would def be in the millions. Not saying that they are doing this now but remember that once you submit this data that's going to be with LL for a long time. If they run into some situation in a few years and fi…

What would a hedge fund do with his data?

Re: Little League wants all your information

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Post by sebmellen »

noisy_boy wrote: post #86

Atleast for emails, provide one like marketingcunts1984+forlittleleague@gmail.com. Junk emails will go to that and you will know which companies they are selling your email id to. The warm feeling from a little rubbing it in will be a bonus.

Better is to use a service like https://anonaddy.me for email forwarding.

Re: Little League wants all your information

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Post by saagarjha »

TylerE wrote: post #118
saagarjha wrote: post #83

Earlier quoted context omitted.

1. Not always he doesn't and 2. I fail to see anything wrong with that comment.

It's typical self-righteous tech elitest drivel. What's not wrong with it? About the only thing missing is a reference to how anyone with two braincells uses Brave browser and buys bitcoin.

I fail to see how "people should vouch for new members or be careful with my personal information" is "self-righteous tech elitist drivel".

Re: Little League wants all your information

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Post by MarkLowenstein »

ape4 wrote: post #12

Why do they "need" 3 proofs of residency?!

I've been through this application process; I consider it a form of abuse and I'm sure it drives some people away from participation. And then they beg you to volunteer but to do so you have to provide tons more information to prove you're not a child molester.

Anyway I think it's all so they don't get to the final competitions and Little League World Series, only to find out they have to disqualify some team for having an out-of-district player. But maybe it would work almost as well to check only the winning team, after the series, and if they've committed fraud, the other team wins.

Re: Little League wants all your information

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Post by parsimo2010 »

saagarjha wrote: post #92
parsimo2010 wrote: post #75

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You occasionally hear about faked birth certificates being used to get over age players or foreigners (Cubans) on a team. There is enough money at stake for these kids at the national level for a few people to try it. Cheating is almost minigame inside of baseball at this point. I don’t know if requiring three forms of ID/residency is the right solution, but I at least understand the motivation. They are probably ope…

Why can't they check this at the national level?

You could, but it would be a real mess if a state champion team got checked before a national level tournament and the league found out they had ineligible players that they used to qualify for the tournament. You could just kick those individual kids out, but who’s to say that the team would have qualified without them? You could DQ the whole team, but that is going to remove honest kids that had nothing to do with the cheating, and probably would have played for a non-cheating team if given the choice. Plus, if you DQ the whole team, what is the best way to find a replacement or should you just give their first opponent a bye? Once you start thinking about how to handle cheaters that make it most of the way through the season, you realize that it’s way simpler to catch them during registration so you’ll have fewer tough decisions to make later on.

I don’t support collecting a treasure trove of personal information, but I do support fairness in sports and there is probably a “correct” solution to this problem if the right people put their minds to it.

Re: Little League wants all your information

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Post by mistrial9 »

kstrauser wrote: post #2

Oh hey, Hacker News! This is my post. I’m not strictly allergic to proving that I live in a certain place, so long as the evidence is securely deleted afterward. I’m very opposed to the idea that they can share all of those records with any of their partners or sponsors as they see fit. For example, “proof of residency 3” includes financial or medical records. Suppose that Large Corporation donates $1,000 to Little L…

I connect the dots here historically, back to Feudal times for example, with mandatory military service to the local Boss. Cultures that are ok with this basically comply with the reporting requirements on their male children, cultures that are against this social form, object and do not comply, doing other things with childhood besides training in teams with numbers on each back. I claim that modern human social landscapes are filled with examples of both sorts of groups.

On the extremes may be people who are not self-aware enough to even think about the implications of compliance, and on the other, social privilege or social isolation, to escape compliance. Without the actual consequences of war in our lifetime (in the USA), people have a lot less reason to object, and they generally don't (sheeple-theory).

Personally, I strongly object to this practice, and am strongly against the "surveillance capitalism" trend overall.

Re: Little League wants all your information

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Post by Taniwha »

kstrauser wrote: post #116
Taniwha wrote: post #57

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah but: I volunteered in a High School in East Oakland a couple of decades back - the school football team won the state championship, people were so proud, then they were disqualified because their star player was living in a car with his mom .... didn't have a fixed Oakland address even though he lived there. Some people don't have the luxury of an address, much less 3 forms of address .... but every kid should b…

For sure. Out of curiosity, do you know of a good compromise that would allow the kid to play while still keeping the rules mostly in place for other kids?

I think you need compassionate teachers and functionaries who are capable of bending rules when appropriate, and rules that allow for such bending.

And, I guess, everyone else not trying to take advantage of such a system.

Re: Little League wants all your information

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Post by TylerE »

saagarjha wrote: post #125
TylerE wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's typical self-righteous tech elitest drivel. What's not wrong with it? About the only thing missing is a reference to how anyone with two braincells uses Brave browser and buys bitcoin.

I fail to see how "people should vouch for new members or be careful with my personal information" is "self-righteous tech elitist drivel".

The whole "Imma techbro and everyone else is obviously a moron who doesn't know what they're doing" schtick gets really tired.
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