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Drivers locked out of their cars at Royston Tesco

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Re: Drivers locked out of their cars at Royston Tesco

#15
post #8

It'll be someone using a 'jam, listen, and replay' device to unlock and start keyless cars so they can drive them to a port and steal them. Pretty much every week a car is stolen this way from my street. I now always take the engine management fuse out of the fusebox when parking my car so at least the car can't start when a thief pulls this... They tried anyway though!

Where do you live that a car gets stolen from your street every week?

I can share that from living in a Northern UK city, between 2 or 3 "notorious" streets there would be multiple car break-ins each week. The University's student Facebook page became a constant feed of people reporting cars with smashed windows.

Re: Drivers locked out of their cars at Royston Tesco

#16
post #5

There is nothing 'mysterious' about this, this is just how radios work. Neither does it have to be malicious. Most car key fobs work in the 433MHz range, if there is something in the area transmitting at said frequency, it will cause the relatively weak signals from keys fobs to be blocked. This it why we have electromechanical compatibility (EMC) certification for any electrical devices being sold. With the market b…

Still sounds pretty mysterious to me. This kind of event is rare, and the source of the interference is (currently) a mystery. I’d love to pop by with a HackRF and directional antenna if I lived anywhere near-by!

Re: Drivers locked out of their cars at Royston Tesco

#17
post #11

> ask to speak to the on-duty manager to make them aware you are having difficulties getting into your vehicle as they are aware of the process to follow. Wonder what the "process" to solve this is if they don't even know the cause?

Portable faraday cage over the car and driver?

Re: Drivers locked out of their cars at Royston Tesco

#18
Article from a few years ago about a neon sign switching-mode power supply that was causing interference on the 433MHz frequency (as well as others):

http://www.arrl.org/news/view/amateur-radio-sleuthing-pins-d...

And “an inventor” who's make shift doorbell was causing problems on 355MHz:

https://hackaday.com/2019/05/15/the-great-ohio-key-fob-myste...

Trouble with these devices is they rely on all applications just transmitting data very briefly. If someone doesn't it can block everything

Re: Drivers locked out of their cars at Royston Tesco

#19
post #11

> ask to speak to the on-duty manager to make them aware you are having difficulties getting into your vehicle as they are aware of the process to follow. Wonder what the "process" to solve this is if they don't even know the cause?

maybe they bring out the huge car sized faraday cage

Re: Drivers locked out of their cars at Royston Tesco

#20
post #5

There is nothing 'mysterious' about this, this is just how radios work. Neither does it have to be malicious. Most car key fobs work in the 433MHz range, if there is something in the area transmitting at said frequency, it will cause the relatively weak signals from keys fobs to be blocked. This it why we have electromechanical compatibility (EMC) certification for any electrical devices being sold. With the market b…

Still sounds pretty mysterious to me. This kind of event is rare, and the source of the interference is (currently) a mystery. I’d love to pop by with a HackRF and directional antenna if I lived anywhere near-by!

Not that rare for me or the people next door.. key fobs dont work frequently at my home.. have to use the physical key and operate the fob from within the car to disable the immobiliser
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