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But the app in the original article doesn't even work on Android. It is an ios app. The link you provide is about android, right? (Still concerning , however)
Seems you have too many HN tabs open at the same time.. But the article I have linked shows the study done on how apps read this information. Goes both ways for Android and Apple at the time, not sure if much has changed
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Are you writing that to emphasize the urgency for the government to pass legislation to reign in unregulated online casinos as they continue refining their dark patterns? (I.e., without legislation, these companies will continue finding more and more sophisticated ways to get the user to act against their own interest.) Or do you mean imply that a practical approach to reign in unregulated online casinos is to spread…
Not the poster you are replying to, but I stopped feeling empathy for people who complaint about lack of privacy, yet willingly give up their data to non-essential services that ask for it with all the proper disclosures. If you agreed to sharing all your contacts to listen to “musical tweets”, I don’t see why you’ll be complaining. You willingly made a trade off.
I don't see what the point is. "Data poisoning" gives companies a bunch of fake contacts... on top of all your real ones? Who cares? So they send some e-mails to addresses that don't exist or something? So it takes up an extra 1% of disk space in their database? If you could share an empty address book then that would actually preserve the privacy of your contacts. But this doesn't do that. I don't get it.
The vast majority of phone calls I receive are spam calls by people/robocallers which I did not give my phone number to, but apparently someone else did. I don't want people sharing my phone number with random other people
They just dial numbers at random. Phone numbers aren't sparsely distributed. There are entire area codes that are essentially fully utilized.
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Are you writing that to emphasize the urgency for the government to pass legislation to reign in unregulated online casinos as they continue refining their dark patterns? (I.e., without legislation, these companies will continue finding more and more sophisticated ways to get the user to act against their own interest.) Or do you mean imply that a practical approach to reign in unregulated online casinos is to spread…
Not the poster you are replying to, but I stopped feeling empathy for people who complaint about lack of privacy, yet willingly give up their data to non-essential services that ask for it with all the proper disclosures. If you agreed to sharing all your contacts to listen to “musical tweets”, I don’t see why you’ll be complaining. You willingly made a trade off.
It is also illegal to do it (GDPR), if you don't have the permission of every single person in your contacts.
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Clubhouse can bite me. I refuse to use tooling from shitbags who try to exort me into compromising others' privacy for shiny toys. I know other shops do it, as if that makes it OK.
I remember signing up for Facebook back in the day. They tried to get me to share something about my email contacts list. That just made me not use Facebook instead. Unfortunately, everyone else didn't seem to have a problem with it.
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I mean this is why they do it. You knew it was wrong, you knew they were going to take that data and mine it, and you still said sure.
In my case, I don't even remember giving them permission to use my contacts, yet I got accepted because one of my contacts sent me an invite. I might have given them permission without realizing it, but what could've also happened is that they saw my phone number in someone else's contact list, and assumed we were contacts.
Clubhouse requires contact list in order to get invites, which are required to sign up right now. I get why they are doing this, and it caused me to share my contacts with them. However, I resented it and it put me immediately in a defensive posture with the product and company. There is no possible way to trust a company with your contact list and Apple should make it how Photos works now--where you can select which…
That's why I chose to set (masked) emails as the primary id on groupsapp.online and even these can't be seen publicly unless you share a "group". Others will just see XXXX@gmail.com
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I mean this is why they do it. You knew it was wrong, you knew they were going to take that data and mine it, and you still said sure.
Correct. I've been a member for going on a year now and I have scores of invites I don't appear to be able to send because I won't share my contacts. Not that I care enough to invite people, but it's a dark pattern to even require it. I have heard there's a way to share invites without sharing contacts, but I haven't cared enough to even do a cursory search on that.