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PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Re: PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Post by dogonwheels »

smhinsey wrote: post #9
dogonwheels wrote: post #8

PyCharm also has excellent JavaScript support: http://www.jetbrains.com/editors/javascript_editor.jsp?ide=p... This, the IDE's cross platform support and the IdeaVIM plugin have basically converted me back to an IDE toting developer again.

I think having good HTML/JS/CSS support is a general trait of all of the JetBrains IDEs, in case you are curious if the one for your language has it too.

Indeed! It was a pleasant surprise, to me at least. I didn't immediately associate a Py IDE with JS dev (I'm a relative late comer to Django and still don't instinctively connect Python to webdev), but since they're my two languages of choice right now, it's ideal.

(and the sass syntax highlighting was also a 'ooh!', as was the automagical git support, as was JetBrains' helpful personal email reply to my filled in questionnaire, as was... well, you get the idea. I'm a happy customer!)

Re: PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Post by mathrawka »

dogonwheels wrote: post #8

PyCharm also has excellent JavaScript support: http://www.jetbrains.com/editors/javascript_editor.jsp?ide=p... This, the IDE's cross platform support and the IdeaVIM plugin have basically converted me back to an IDE toting developer again.

Does it support coffeescript (indirectly or directly)?

Re: PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Post by amirrustam »

Aside from all the goodness and awesomeness that comes with PyCharm, I would like to say I've noticed faster program startup with 1.5 with respect to 1.2.1. So I'm glad features are not the only thing being added with this release.

With respect to the Vim vs PyCharm Discussion. I think Vim is great. It's fast, light, and you can customize the hell of it (if you're patient). With that said PyCharm is also great. After you start it up, it is also fast, and you can also do a whole bunch of customizations. At the end of the day, I'm gonna use the tool that is going make me more productive. For me that tool is PyCharm. Now I know some of you are just as productive on Vim, and more power to you guys. However, I would say it would be reasonable to assume that most of the population (of programmers that is) would be more productive through the extensive set of tools that have been so thoughtfully implemented into PyCharm. So my advice is to use the app that makes you crank out good clean code the fastest. I also recommend for everyone to at least give PyCharm a test drive by using the trial, specially if you are a Django developer.

Re: PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Post by Egregore »

djd wrote: post #7

Could some one please elaborate on vim Vs PyCharm? I mean pros and cons?

Personally I'm using vim only when I need to edit a separate file (especially on server side) it loads quickly and allow you to quickly fix something, but when I'm working on a project I prefer to use an IDE, it usually has smart code completion, you can find function usages, you can go to function declaration.

Re: PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Post by masklinn »

mathrawka wrote: post #12
dogonwheels wrote: post #8

PyCharm also has excellent JavaScript support: http://www.jetbrains.com/editors/javascript_editor.jsp?ide=p... This, the IDE's cross platform support and the IdeaVIM plugin have basically converted me back to an IDE toting developer again.

Does it support coffeescript (indirectly or directly)?

Nope.

Re: PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Post by jkbr »

mathrawka wrote: post #12
dogonwheels wrote: post #8

PyCharm also has excellent JavaScript support: http://www.jetbrains.com/editors/javascript_editor.jsp?ide=p... This, the IDE's cross platform support and the IdeaVIM plugin have basically converted me back to an IDE toting developer again.

Does it support coffeescript (indirectly or directly)?

https://github.com/netzpirat/coffee-brew

Re: PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Post by rufugee »

bokchoi wrote: post #4
yesimahuman wrote: post #3

The template debugging looks awesome. I wonder if there is a project that provides django template debugging as a stand alone thing? I don't see myself ever moving from vim to Jetbrains.

As a former vim user myself, if you do use IntelliJ or PyCharm I can recommend using the IdeaVIM plugin: http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=164

O rly? Have you actually used it? I tried for months while using RubyMine. The IdeaVIM plugin was one of the reasons I was ultimately driven back to regular vim...the inconsistencies and bugs were pretty bad...to the extent that some things like undo would lose your changes completely (i.e., no redo). I really wanted to like RubyMine/IntelliJ/IdeaVIM, but the bugs were a deal killer. Coupled with the fact that many were known issues and there was no commitment to fix them and my choice to go back to vim was easy.

I should note that the vim support in netbeans and eclipse was just about flawless. It's a shame IntelliJ couldn't steal/adapt one of those projects to work within its IDE set.

Re: PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Post by bokchoi »

rufugee wrote: post #17
bokchoi wrote: post #4

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a former vim user myself, if you do use IntelliJ or PyCharm I can recommend using the IdeaVIM plugin: http://plugins.intellij.net/plugin/?id=164

O rly? Have you actually used it? I tried for months while using RubyMine. The IdeaVIM plugin was one of the reasons I was ultimately driven back to regular vim...the inconsistencies and bugs were pretty bad...to the extent that some things like undo would lose your changes completely (i.e., no redo). I really wanted to like RubyMine/IntelliJ/IdeaVIM, but the bugs were a deal killer. Coupled with the fact that many w…

Yes, rly. Of course I have actually used it -- I use it daily. I wouldn't recommend it otherwise.

I find the small bugs in IdeaVIM well worth the added bonus of using IntelliJ over using vim alone or using netbeans or eclipse. I fiddled with eclim and jbvi and other vim-ish things, but IntelliJ really is the best Java IDE IMHO.

Re: PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Post by rufugee »

bokchoi wrote: post #18
rufugee wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

O rly? Have you actually used it? I tried for months while using RubyMine. The IdeaVIM plugin was one of the reasons I was ultimately driven back to regular vim...the inconsistencies and bugs were pretty bad...to the extent that some things like undo would lose your changes completely (i.e., no redo). I really wanted to like RubyMine/IntelliJ/IdeaVIM, but the bugs were a deal killer. Coupled with the fact that many w…

Yes, rly. Of course I have actually used it -- I use it daily. I wouldn't recommend it otherwise. I find the small bugs in IdeaVIM well worth the added bonus of using IntelliJ over using vim alone or using netbeans or eclipse. I fiddled with eclim and jbvi and other vim-ish things, but IntelliJ really is the best Java IDE IMHO.

So do U and CTRL+R now properly undo and redo? When I used it, if you used U to undo, there was simply no way to ever redo anything...

Re: PyCharm 1.5 Released - now with Django Template Debugging

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Post by dogonwheels »

rufugee wrote: post #19
bokchoi wrote: post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, rly. Of course I have actually used it -- I use it daily. I wouldn't recommend it otherwise. I find the small bugs in IdeaVIM well worth the added bonus of using IntelliJ over using vim alone or using netbeans or eclipse. I fiddled with eclim and jbvi and other vim-ish things, but IntelliJ really is the best Java IDE IMHO.

So do U and CTRL+R now properly undo and redo? When I used it, if you used U to undo, there was simply no way to ever redo anything...

What platform are you on? My windows install seems to be prone to odd keyboard collisions, but mac is fine.
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