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Re: Show HN: Redbean – Single-file distributable web server

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Post by lambda_obrien »

hprx wrote: post #10

I just spent 30 minutes reading about this. I'm so shocked that I'm logging in to comment after 5 years of lurking. Justine has built a c library that allows you compile a binary once and have it run it on any os or baremetal. The SAME binary. Quite frankly, that sentence doesn't even make sense to me. Check out https://storage.googleapis.com/justine/cosmopolitan/index.ht... As far as I'm concerned, this is literal m…

Strong agree; someone needs to give her like a million dollars a year salary and unlimited resources to explore whatever she wants for life, just to see what she comes up with.

Re: Show HN: Redbean – Single-file distributable web server

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Post by syncbehind »

nabla9 wrote: post #119
haolez wrote: post #114

This is so powerful that it can be used as a "weapon": it's the perfect lib for making malware. I think this is a compliment!

She started her career with a very successful spam tool. She was 14 at the time.

I definitely was not coding when I was 14. Dang.

Re: Show HN: Redbean – Single-file distributable web server

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Post by AtlasBarfed »

jart wrote: post #64
shaggy8871 wrote: post #38

Nice job, Justine. This level of excitement reminds me of the early days of Linux. I think it has the potential to go far.

Author here. Thanks! I was deeply inspired when I read the source code to early versions of Linux and UNIX. The dream of that simple elegant power is something I'm hoping to restore for a new generation. All I'm doing to achieve that is simply standing on the shoulders of the giants who came before me.

I can't believe I'm ASKING for a blog post.

Can you blog a bit of the career/cognitive/skill evolutionary history behind this? Did the cosmo stuff come out of this or something else?

Learned this in X level school, found out about Y, read about Y, learned this, got this job doing this, learned this from Z, got experience of AA... etc.

Of course, assuming this exists, and you exist. And blogs "exist".

Re: Show HN: Redbean – Single-file distributable web server

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Post by Abishek_Muthian »

alisonatwork wrote: post #28
hprx wrote: post #10

I just spent 30 minutes reading about this. I'm so shocked that I'm logging in to comment after 5 years of lurking. Justine has built a c library that allows you compile a binary once and have it run it on any os or baremetal. The SAME binary. Quite frankly, that sentence doesn't even make sense to me. Check out https://storage.googleapis.com/justine/cosmopolitan/index.ht... As far as I'm concerned, this is literal m…

Agreed, this is the best programming-related thing I've seen on the internet in a long time. It reminds me of when I was a teenager, excited to become a computer programmer. Then I grew up and joined the real world workforce and it was all far less exciting than I imagined. The coolest thing about this Actually Portable Executable is that once there's a compiler and linker built with it, I can play around with writin…

I like Go for the same reason, but I have an irrational fear that someday I might be in a life or death situation and should program my way out using a bare bones computer without Internet; So I keep tabs on C occasionally.

αcτµαlly pδrταblε εxεcµταblε has now piqued my interest, So I might actually indulge in C programming for fun again after all. Thanks Justine.

Re: Show HN: Redbean – Single-file distributable web server

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Post by TickleSteve »

jart wrote: post #137
TickleSteve wrote: post #116

TLDR: This is a packed file format that can look to the OS as being executable (for Windows/Linux/OSX). The code is x86 and so offers native performance on those processors. On other platforms, an x86 emulator is built in so can't offer native execution speeds. While neat, its not the "best of all worlds" due to the lack of native code on anything other than x86/x64. Also, claiming "bare metal" is supported is a stre…

I'm just one woman. What Cosmopolitan does so far, it does really well. It was only as recently as a few days ago that I got mmap() and malloc() polyfilled on bare metal. It has serial uart i/o. It's going to have e1000/virtio sockets soon. You can help me will that future into existence. I need people who know o/s dev and can help me write code that does things like correctly set up pic controller.

Sorry, wasn't meant as a criticism, just as an explanation because people were assuming magic...

Taking on bare-metal is a significant job much greater than your original task and you may be better targeting something like buildroot instead, after all what is the Linux kernel but a hardware abstraction layer.

Re: Show HN: Redbean – Single-file distributable web server

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Post by t0astbread »

r0b05 wrote: post #92
aembleton wrote: post #49

Just make sure you don't have another server running on :8080. I had syncthing running and kept getting some error whenever I tried to run redbean. The error didn't make much sense, but eventually I realised that this was the casue of the error. I'm really impressed how portable this is. The only improvement I can see is if it auto-opened your browser to :8080. That way it would be easy to distribute the binary and h…

Let's say we are able to do this. Would we have any security concerns to be addressed?

There is the possibility of other programs making HTTP requests so you shouldn't assume trust on any request automatically. What you can do is give the browser a cookie once when your app starts which you then check on every request.

Oh and listen on 127.0.0.1, not 0.0.0.0. That way your app is not needlessly exposed to the network.

Re: Show HN: Redbean – Single-file distributable web server

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Post by tgbugs »

I looked into building SBCL using chibicc last weekend in the hope that one could build a truly portable lisp runtime using the ape toolchain (Yes, yes, I know you couldn't possibly pick two more different approaches to software portability). Turns out the GNUC extensions for __asm__ are the primary stumbling block (though I'm sure there are others). tcc supports the GNUC extensions needed, and chibicc supports the thread local storage needed for dynamic variables. Looking forward to future developments!

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Post by jart »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #153
jart wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Author here. Thanks! I was deeply inspired when I read the source code to early versions of Linux and UNIX. The dream of that simple elegant power is something I'm hoping to restore for a new generation. All I'm doing to achieve that is simply standing on the shoulders of the giants who came before me.

I can't believe I'm ASKING for a blog post. Can you blog a bit of the career/cognitive/skill evolutionary history behind this? Did the cosmo stuff come out of this or something else? Learned this in X level school, found out about Y, read about Y, learned this, got this job doing this, learned this from Z, got experience of AA... etc. Of course, assuming this exists, and you exist. And blogs "exist".

Author here. When I first discovered the idea for Actually Portable Executable I thought I was going mad like Terry Davis. I couldn't even believe that it was possible until I actually did it. It cost me my job but I couldn't be happier with the result. This project is going to make problems disappear for so many developers. It's the sort of tool people can get excited about. I'm so happy that my prior career success and top-notch training have granted me the privilege of bringing something this cool to the world. Enjoy!
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