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The fact that Facebook appears to consider user consent an existential threat to their business model tells me everything I need to know about them right now.
(It's debatable whether or not Google is any better. At least they're a lot less overt about their contempt for user privacy and data sovereignty.)
> Apple says in the coming weeks, it will update its iOS software for iPhones to require apps to get explicit consent to track what people are doing on their phones for the purposes of sharing it with third-parties. That's all they are doing. They aren't preventing companies from tracking users in this way. They are just requiring them to get permission. Says a lot about Facebook's business model that this is a cause…
What is to stop Facebook from making a picture show up all fuzzy and then tell the user that they should opt-in to tracking to get the highest resolution pictures.
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The actual quote: Facebook has also launched a website and taken out full-page advertisements in newspapers, in addition to a recent TV and radio ad push, to put a spotlight on how many small business owners depend on targeted ads. This is definitely a true statement. The vast majority of small businesses who advertise on FB will be hurt by this change. The best estimate to date is a 20-30% drop in marketing efficien…
I'm just biased. I hate advertising and I hate tracking even more. I'm sure some companies will be slightly hurt, but I believe it will be a net gain for society. I worked at a small hardware store as a kid and we got all our business from word of mouth. IDK what the best argument here is, so I suppose I'm just admitting my feelings with this comment.
Can Facebook block access to users refusing the tracking consent?
Officially, no. That's against the Apple developer guidelines. Whether Apple will have the courage to enforce them is another matter. We've already seen evidence that their new "privacy nutrition labels" are sometimes inaccurate with no consequences for the app developers.
I was wondering due to the recent changes of Reddit T&Cs
The fact that Facebook appears to consider user consent an existential threat to their business model tells me everything I need to know about them right now.
It's really weird. I don't think the "threat" is the obvious one... Nobody trusts Facebook -- many, if not most, people honestly believe they listen to their conversations already. The real message is how emotional and immature the leadership is to a perceived slight. A message that said "Cigarettes will kill you" didn't stop smokers, and some label won't stop Facebook users or meaningfully impact Facebook. Hell, whe…
If Android follows suit (not guaranteed but iOS and Android often converge on features within a few versions of each other), then they are going to take another hit. Executives want to prevent this change in the interest of their personal wealth.
While I welcome the change as an iOS user (for privacy with my other apps, I don’t even have a Facebook account) I can understand why Facebook is coming out hard against the change.
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Apple just wants to be exclusive gateway to Apple customers. We are a product to both companies, even if Apple appears the lesser evil.
Apple's incentives appear aligned with their customers. Facebook's are completely opposed.
... which is really no mystery, because Apple users are customers, and Facebook users are product.
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Apple just wants to be exclusive gateway to Apple customers. We are a product to both companies, even if Apple appears the lesser evil.
Except Apple doesn't track you all across the internet at every possible opportunity without you knowing about it.
Apple should be applauded for this. Their revenue does not depend on software to clandestinely steal and sell users data. One day, we will look back at history and see facebook similar as to how people view myspace now (junkyard of software). Good on Apple not selling devices with a facebook backdoor in them. I know apple probably has deals with malicious governments regarding data access, but at least they are stand…
Sadly there is some truth to that. In a better world it would be regarded as the absolute, bare minimum.
The fact that Facebook appears to consider user consent an existential threat to their business model tells me everything I need to know about them right now.
Apple just wants to be exclusive gateway to Apple customers. We are a product to both companies, even if Apple appears the lesser evil.
But everyone seems to conveniently forget about the absolute moral nightmare that is Apple’s supply chain.
Remember when they had to put up nets to stop people from killing themselves? [1]
What about when they were accused of using literal slave labour? [2]
Or the time they actively lobbied Congress when a vote came up to restrict American companies using slave labour [3]
I don’t say this as a shit post, I mean it, it’s really not at all clear to me that Apple are somehow morally less reprehensible.
[1] https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/the-human-cost-of-an-...
[2] https://www.aspi.org.au/report/uyghurs-sale
[3] https://www.axios.com/apple-lobbied-congress-uyghur-slave-la...
For the record... this posted from an iPhone. I got rid of the MacBook already but it’s a process.
Isn't this just going to drive all the tracking serverside? Hash up the tracking data in the app, send it back to the app's servers, send it to whoever you like? Same is happening with browsers and 3rd party cookies.