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The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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Re: The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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Interesting to see Ali Abdaal's content on HN. I regularly watch and enjoy his videos, but I've come to view them as light entertainment rather than anything genuinely insightful or actionable. They're well-produced and they talk about topics I'm interested in, but they don't say a lot. They're definitely algorithm-bait, and it's something that Ali openly admits, but I still (willingly) fall for the bait - there's so…

It's great that you're conscious of it, but many people aren't. This entire genre (I call it productivity porn) is problematic because it creates the illusion of progress. People wonder why the algorithms have so much grip over us - it's because all we do is consume and don't act.

Re: The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

The fact that Ferris is completely transparent about how he won tells me that he probably doesn’t actually think of himself as a war machine. You are also underestimating Judo here, too. It’s all about grappling and throws, positioning. Maybe keep that in mind a little bit when you say he won by forcing his opponent out of bounds. It’s not a street fight.

In judo, intentionally pushing opponent out of bounds is against the rules. Explicitly.

Ok.. so he’s still transparent about how he won. I’m not even going to google the specifics about what happened because judo is hardly something he legitimizes his image on. He’s not “judo champion” Tim Ferris.

Be that as it may, judo is pretty fierce and legit. I used to work as a bouncer with an ex multiple black belt judo champion. Not world class or anything but this guy was crazy, I’ve seen him take out pretty tough guys like it was nothing. If Tim Ferris could force him or someone like him out of bounds then colour me impressed.

Re: The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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I think this is missing an important fourth objective: reading to remember. I'm not sure how much others can relate, but I am hopeless at remembering most of what I read or watch. Even when I spend several days pondering the same book chapter / paper / recipe / etc, taking thorough notes, there is no guarantee I will remember it six months or even one month from now. I started to realize that I was collecting new dat…

We need to _do_ something with it. Reading is not enough, we must apply it somehow. That's why there are exercises in school or uni. That's why some people write summaries of books on their blogs. Another idea might be to make youtube videos about the books we read. Just to summarize them in our own words. To do more with the material that just reading.

(P.S. It's also the reason why I like and recommend Zed Shaw's "Learn X the hard way" approach. He makes you actually type the whole source code in the book. I actually did as he said and it made me a better programmer.)

(P.P.S. Even if we don't read to remember, I think we always still do, just differently. I think Paul Graham said something along these lines: When I read it's like compiling source code. I lose the source code but the compiled machine code is still there, running in my brain.)

Re: The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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In 4-Hour Work Week, Tim Ferris brags that he is a judo champion because he found a loophole in the judging criteria. By forcing people out of bounds 3 times in a match, he could disqualify them and win by default. Ok, sure. Those are the rules, and he won. But in any way that really matters, he was not a judo champion. Further, this guy’s association with Tim Ferris (see his Youtube) is an automatic disqualification…

Of all qualms you could have against Ferriss, this is the pettiest.

What are some more reasonable qualms to have? As a recent fan of Ferriss, I'm curious if there's something I'm missing.

Re: The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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In 4-Hour Work Week, Tim Ferris brags that he is a judo champion because he found a loophole in the judging criteria. By forcing people out of bounds 3 times in a match, he could disqualify them and win by default. Ok, sure. Those are the rules, and he won. But in any way that really matters, he was not a judo champion. Further, this guy’s association with Tim Ferris (see his Youtube) is an automatic disqualification…

Tim hacked the competition. This is Hacker News. Why are you here? ;) (I don't want to insult you, I just wanted to formulate my point it in a slightly more provocative way. That hacking is also about finding such loopholes.)

Re: The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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I have noticed an interesting trend in our discourse about reading lately - there seems to be more and more moralizing and virtue signaling. So much self-help and "motivation porn" focuses on reading books, as if it's a magical activity that will unlock the best version of oneself. It's part of the new aspirational message - imagine yourself rich, happy, driving a Lamborghini, living off dividends from your stonks, and reading books. The people pushing that message get lots of eyeballs on their content because too many people have come to see reading as a lofty, obscure activity only fully accessible to the morally (and therefore financially) superior.

It's almost like reading has been elevated to a kind of rare alchemy, whereby you can unlock secret cheat codes to life. The feeling that you're in rareified air to actually read books. I think anyone who regularly reads books for pleasure should easily see through this - reading is just a hobby. It's a fun, intellectually challenging, infinitely variable hobby with a very long and distinguished history. But ultimately you could learn just as much about yourself and the world by doing pottery, woodworking, kayaking, knitting or whatever else you like to do with your spare time. Making it into such a self-serious pursuit kills most of the joy (and value, for that matter).

Let's try to make reading commonplace, something we almost take for granted. Of course I read books, you read books, we all read books. Everybody poops, and everybody reads books. Wouldn't that be great? In that world, a Youtube commercial or Medium article promising that you can unlock secret lamborghinis on the moon by reading exactly 18.75 books a week would suddenly be absurdly transparent in setting off everyone's bullshit meters. The question "read any good books lately?" could take on less of a challenging air and more conversational, the way so many people can casually drop 10 quotes from their favorite Netflix show they've been binge watching during their commute to work.

Longform reading is magic because it's rarer than ever - it's an art now, according to people like this author. That's why we have so much performative reading, a cheap replacement for the real thing. I'd rather reading be boring and commonplace, something we do as easily as breathing.

Re: The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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I have a contrarian view about reading productively, which is: READ WHAT OTHERS AREN'T READING.

It's as if there is a similar process as the Efficient Market Hypothesis happening with books: the best-sellers define our shared reality, and apparently (at least for me), they aren't worth reading.

For example, think of Outliers, by Malcom Gladwell. Virtually everyone has heard of the 10'000 hour rule. That means that the first thing you have to do to be more productive in your reading is start by NOT reading Outliers: all its content is already common knowledge.

Which brings me to this post. No matter how many books the author is reading, he is simply reviewing what everyone else (Atomic Habits, Thinking Fast and Slow, Grit) is reading too. So there is little value in what he reads, because it's discounted by what "everyone" knows already.

What do you guys think about that? Am I too off course?

Re: The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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post #21

Interesting to see Ali Abdaal's content on HN. I regularly watch and enjoy his videos, but I've come to view them as light entertainment rather than anything genuinely insightful or actionable. They're well-produced and they talk about topics I'm interested in, but they don't say a lot. They're definitely algorithm-bait, and it's something that Ali openly admits, but I still (willingly) fall for the bait - there's so…

It's great that you're conscious of it, but many people aren't. This entire genre (I call it productivity porn) is problematic because it creates the illusion of progress. People wonder why the algorithms have so much grip over us - it's because all we do is consume and don't act.

Productivity porn is a great name for it. For me, it's akin to a trashy gossip magazine - you know it's kind of trash, but enjoy it for what it is. It always makes me smirk when the videos themselves call out your last point, and say "you can't just think about it, you need to act on it, go out there and Carpe Diem!" and we all smile and nod and click the next video without moving from our chairs.

I hope I'm not coming off as too negative though, as I think they are marginally better than most types of content on YouTube. Especially the more popular channels such as Ali's may appear on people's feeds that have never once even thought about _having_ any sort of system, and for them it's a big win. Once you're past surface level though, they generally don't have much more to offer, but are kind of fun to watch regardless.

Re: The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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I like the idea of "synoptic" reading to learn about a concrete topic. It makes sense when different works offer different versions of what happens and why. But it seems weird to do it with fiction. If I'm reading fiction, I want to get into the world created by the author. I think repeatedly stepping in and out to compare it to other works, or analyze its construction, or think about a GoodReads review, all of that…

I'm rereading "How to Read a Book" by Mortimer Adler and Charles Van Doren right now. It's worth picking up if you're interested in getting more out of your reading.

Anything good that can be said about it is an understatement. A true masterpiece.

Re: The Art of Reading More Effectively and Efficiently

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post #26

I have noticed an interesting trend in our discourse about reading lately - there seems to be more and more moralizing and virtue signaling. So much self-help and "motivation porn" focuses on reading books, as if it's a magical activity that will unlock the best version of oneself. It's part of the new aspirational message - imagine yourself rich, happy, driving a Lamborghini, living off dividends from your stonks, a…

> imagine yourself rich, happy, driving a Lamborghini, living off dividends from your stonks, and reading books

I was immediately reminded of Lambo Tai. I still think it's a parody of something...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cv1RJTHf5fk

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