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Re: Firefox 86.0

#41

Post by chrismorgan »

ebegnwgnen wrote: post #24
forgotmypw17 wrote: post #2

What I'd like to see in a browser is a button which resets it to the UI from Firefox 1.0 [1] OS-provided window border and titlebar Standard menubar with keyboard hints, always displayed Five buttons: Back, forward, reload, stop, home Address bar and separate search field Status bar which shows me link URL when I hover a link [1] https://www.webdesignmuseum.org/web-design-history/mozilla-f... Personally, these days I…

Go to Menu -> Customize. Tick "Title Bar" Drag & Drop the "search" widget aside your URL bar Drag & Drop the Five buttons you mention where you want You're welcome. (for the status bar URL link preview on hover it's already the case by default)

However, the status bar is no longer persistent, but only appears when hovering over a link. Also in the past you used to be able to control the text in the status bar via the window.status variable in JavaScript. This was disabled as it was used for malicious purposes (faking link destinations and misleading users by putting page-controlled content in the browser chrome), and after that there didn’t seem much point to wasting 20–30px of precious vertical space all the time.

I would also note that the address bar and search box got merged for a good reason, because their functionalities steadily converged over time as the address bar became more powerful and useful. You can still have them split if you really want, but it is unlikely to actually benefit most people.

Re: Firefox 86.0

#43

Post by dtx1 »

betamaxthetape wrote: post #35
matsemann wrote: post #23

Wow, Ctrl+P has now started to open the proper print-interface with a preview! I've helped loads of people over the years complaining about printing in Fx vs Chrome. It used to be so in Fx that selecting Print from the menu opened an interface for printing (ala Chrome), but pressing Ctrl+P just opened standard OS print dialog. So power users never saw the nice print preview.

As someone who always used the Ctrl-P keyboard shortcut, I never even knew that a print-with-preview interface existed in Firefox.

It never even occured to me to use the menu version. What an upgrade

Re: Firefox 86.0

#44

Post by afavour »

pmurt7 wrote: post #42

I was reading the blog posts of Mozilla CEO Mitchell Baker: https://blog.mozilla.org/blog/author/mitchellmozillacom/ What the fuck? It's almost like a (far-left) political agenda. No words about the browser, the product vision, the future features and so. Mozilla is doomed.

So you're angry at the Mozilla CEO for posting about political topics rather than the browser and product vision?

And yet here you are, in a thread about the Mozilla browser, posting about political topics. Maybe take your own advice?

Re: Firefox 86.0

#45

Post by SecurityLagoon »

FeepingCreature wrote: post #37
fctorial wrote: post #7

Firefox is the only option for mobile webdev since it's the only mobile browser with devtools. However I won't use it as my main browser because of insanely frequent (and pointless) major ui changes. It messes with your muscle memory. This isn't beta software, is it?

Yeah I just have a pinned beta apk from a while back that I will never, ever update. Same with Firefox on Desktop, for that matter.

Please update your browser - sitting on old versions is just asking for trouble. If you really want to maintain a consistent interface then use the ESR releases which should basically just be security updates.

Re: Firefox 86.0

#46

Post by ubercow13 »

vifon wrote: post #33
ubercow13 wrote: post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How does a window manager get rid of Firefox's browser chrome?

For me it makes the fullscreen videos cover only the Firefox window, so they effectively can serve as PIP windows. To be honest, I have no idea how to enable it outside of XMonad, it just worked like this on XMonad many years ago when I switched to it and I actually liked this behavior so here we are.

Right but xmonad is very idiosyncratic in that behaviour. I don't know of any other window manager that behaves like that, and while it seems useful in Firefox, it doesn't make much sense to ignore fullscreen requests from an application like mpv which has no chrome anyway, or say a video game which expects to be fullscreen and doesn't know how to dynamically scale its UI down when the window isn't the size it expects.

PiP seems to be a cleaner solution.

Re: Firefox 86.0

#47

Post by heywherelogingo »

fctorial wrote: post #7

Firefox is the only option for mobile webdev since it's the only mobile browser with devtools. However I won't use it as my main browser because of insanely frequent (and pointless) major ui changes. It messes with your muscle memory. This isn't beta software, is it?

Doesn't chrome do the same? I used it last night, opened the history and that was considerably different.

Re: Firefox 86.0

#48

Post by Jamieee »

eznzt wrote: post #39

This new release also includes new ads, seems they forgot to put that in the release notes: https://twitter.com/CohanRobinson/status/1364172683118866433

From the tweet's Author it's disabled via:

about:config

browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsored

browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsoredTopSites

there is also:

services.sync.prefs.sync.browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsored

services.sync.prefs.sync.browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsoredTopSites

Re: Firefox 86.0

#49

Post by ihuman »

fctorial wrote: post #7

Firefox is the only option for mobile webdev since it's the only mobile browser with devtools. However I won't use it as my main browser because of insanely frequent (and pointless) major ui changes. It messes with your muscle memory. This isn't beta software, is it?

Safari on iOS kind of has devtools, but they're not available on the go, since you still need a desktop computer to access them. Enable the "web inspector" setting in iOS safari and the "show develop menu" in macOS (both in the advanced settings section). When you plug in the iOS device directly into the Mac, it'll show up in the Mac's Safari's develop menu. Unfortunately, this is completely useless if you don't have access to a mac or are away from your computer.

Re: Firefox 86.0

#50

Post by FeepingCreature »

SecurityLagoon wrote: post #45
FeepingCreature wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yeah I just have a pinned beta apk from a while back that I will never, ever update. Same with Firefox on Desktop, for that matter.

Please update your browser - sitting on old versions is just asking for trouble. If you really want to maintain a consistent interface then use the ESR releases which should basically just be security updates.

Unfortunately, Firefox ESR already doesn't have TabMixPlus support.

I'm on Waterfox Classic on desktop, but that's probably not gonna last forever either. And when that eventually drops support, I'll just stay on the last version until some browser vendor brings multi row tabs back. On mobile, I visit maybe five websites, and the three most common ones don't have ads, so I'm happy with my pinned old Firefox Beta version. And no matter what happens, I'm not upgrading to current Firefox on Android - well, unless the thing that happens is they take that abomination of a UI back behind the shed and put it out of its misery...

The way I look at it, it's unfortunate that the one single browser actually worth using sadly no longer gets security updates. That sucks for me, but I'm also not gonna stop using the browser.

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