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One More Thing: ‘iTunes Match’ Will Upgrade Your Ripped Music For $24.99 A Year

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Re: One More Thing: ‘iTunes Match’ Will Upgrade Your Ripped Music For $24.99 A Year

#71

Apparently, this is U.S.-only: http://twitter.com/#!/adrianweckler/status/77813858793832448

I'm sure it will be extended to countries other than Canada soon ;p In a way I'm proud that we get excluded from all these kind of things. Shows our current laws are hated by the MPAA/RIAA people.

Re: One More Thing: ‘iTunes Match’ Will Upgrade Your Ripped Music For $24.99 A Year

#72

This is a treasure trove of marketing information. Apple will know your entire library and what you are listening to and when. Not exactly a privacy concern, but its something they can potentially make money off of somehow.

They already have it if you signed up for genius or whatever it's called.

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#73

I'm not sure how people are surprised by this. If you already have the track on your hard drive and now you have to PAY to listen to it then Apple isn't really giving you anything you didn't already have (convenience, obviously). It's a nice service, but realize that they have already lost the sale.

I would argue that you had a source file that may have been of lower quality and AAPL is basically giving you high quality rips of all of your music (DRM free) and hosting it so that your other devices can access it as well at any time.

Re: One More Thing: ‘iTunes Match’ Will Upgrade Your Ripped Music For $24.99 A Year

#74
post #58

I, for one, will pay the $25 amnesty fee after being a pirate for fifteen years.

What makes you think you are getting amnesty?

The fact that I'll be paying $25 for a blanket validation of my music collection. Once the payment is made, I'm as good as gold. At a substantial discount.

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#75
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm guessing that they're going to use an audio hash to look at the file and determine what song it is. It's probably more reliable than using ID3 tags which might get mixed up (especially around remixes, live versions, or just generally missing information). http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hash_function#Finding_similar_r...

If the audio hash & protocol gets reverse-engineered, though, it'll make filesharing very quick--- instead of having to trade mp3s, you can just email your friend a list of hashes.

This could get exploited so hard. I'm sure there must be a catch somewhere in the service.

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#76
post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If the audio hash & protocol gets reverse-engineered, though, it'll make filesharing very quick--- instead of having to trade mp3s, you can just email your friend a list of hashes.

I'm not sure how that would work, for the hash to be the same you would need the original song right? If they use sha1 or something like that how are you going to go from hash to song?

I was thinking of the case where iTunes computes hashes of your mp3s locally, then uses those to tell Apple which songs you have. You're right that if Apple requires you to upload the actual files, and then computes the hashes on the server-side, it'd make it much more difficult (you'd have to either have the original file, or generate a hash collision).

Re: One More Thing: ‘iTunes Match’ Will Upgrade Your Ripped Music For $24.99 A Year

#77
post #28
post #3

iTunes Match premise: Once a pirate, not always a pirate. Pirates are willing to pay $25 / yr for legit 256 kbps AAC tracks of stuff they already have? And you must keep paying $25/yr in perpetuity for access to these tracks?

This just sounds surreal. So instead of buying music, you can now "pirate" it, then allow iTunes Match to "legitimize it" for you. Bingo, free "legitimate" music (I assume with artwork/etc included).

Even better: Hack the iTunes Match service to let it think you have MP3s, that you don't even have on your system. Bam, instant free access to all music on iTunes. (well almost free)

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#78

I can't believe the fit the Music industry is throwing about Google Music and Amazon CloudDrive but they still made this deal with Apple. Props to Apple. Shows they've got the muscle to get what they want.

If my past experience with the labels and intuition is correct, the labels were protesting because they wanted Apple's paid service to roll out first, perhaps had even given Apple assurances that they'd be first (related to the ~$150M upfront?). This would also explain why reports were that they were dragging their feet in negotiations with others, and why Amazon and Google may have chosen to go without. People selling digital music are very sensitive to the early mover advantage iTunes brought Apple.

Re: One More Thing: ‘iTunes Match’ Will Upgrade Your Ripped Music For $24.99 A Year

#79
post #2

I'm curious whether this $24.99/yr revenue is shared with the labels who own the "pirated" music as part of the deal.

Reports were that they'd be getting 30% of it, and a significant amount (tens of millions) each in upfront fees.

Re: One More Thing: ‘iTunes Match’ Will Upgrade Your Ripped Music For $24.99 A Year

#80

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please provide double-blind test results showing you can distinguish between FLAC and an iTunes Store copy.

There are other reasons for using lossless audio files, such as archiving, and avoiding degradation through re-encoding.

also disks are cheap, and flac amounts to a digital copy of the physical CD. You could decode it to the original WAV files from the CD if you wanted to
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