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You mean, like manufacturing electronics? It takes about 1MWh to manufacture a laptop, the same energy needed to drive a Tesla for 3000 miles. https://www.networkworld.com/article/2229029/computer-factor...
Since we're trying to use human-understandable units for measuring energy inputs, It's also the same amount of energy that is necessary to boil 600 pots of soup.
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You mean, like manufacturing electronics? It takes about 1MWh to manufacture a laptop, the same energy needed to drive a Tesla for 3000 miles. https://www.networkworld.com/article/2229029/computer-factor...
So probably 10MWh to build a Tesla, before even driving it?
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/abs/pii/S00078...
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You mean, like manufacturing electronics? It takes about 1MWh to manufacture a laptop, the same energy needed to drive a Tesla for 3000 miles. https://www.networkworld.com/article/2229029/computer-factor...
Since we're trying to use human-understandable units for measuring energy inputs, It's also the same amount of energy that is necessary to boil 600 pots of soup.
By my calculation, 1MWh is enough to boil 600 17-liter pots, which isn't very human-relatable.
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Since we're trying to use human-understandable units for measuring energy inputs, It's also the same amount of energy that is necessary to boil 600 pots of soup.
Not much use unless you specify the size of the pot ;) By my calculation, 1MWh is enough to boil 600 17-liter pots, which isn't very human-relatable.
Given the strategic importance of semiconductors and how expensive new fabs are and how long they take to start production (if you start planning a new state of the art fab now it'll take ~5 years before it's ready to produce chips) it seems like perhaps we need to look a public-private partnerships here in the US. The Chinese government is funding fabs. While we tend to be squeamish about such things here in the US,…
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Not much use unless you specify the size of the pot ;) By my calculation, 1MWh is enough to boil 600 17-liter pots, which isn't very human-relatable.
We're talking about the full energy budget of common household objects, like laptops, so you need to take into account the inefficiency of your gas stove, as well as the full energy cost of extracting and transporting the natural gas to your apartment.
Given the strategic importance of semiconductors and how expensive new fabs are and how long they take to start production (if you start planning a new state of the art fab now it'll take ~5 years before it's ready to produce chips) it seems like perhaps we need to look a public-private partnerships here in the US. The Chinese government is funding fabs. While we tend to be squeamish about such things here in the US,…
Are you saying that Chinese semiconductor companies are outcompeting US semiconductor companies because they have greater access to capital? That doesn't seem right to me.
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Are you saying that Chinese semiconductor companies are outcompeting US semiconductor companies because they have greater access to capital? That doesn't seem right to me.
I'm saying that the Chinese government has determined that semiconductors are strategically important and is willing to pour yuan into fabs and developing their own process equipment industry. Semiconductor manufacturing is a very capital intensive business and the short-term market view in the West isn't well suited to remaining competitive in that space. Silicon Valley has very little to do with silicon anymore bec…
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> the same energy needed to drive a Tesla who are the memeticists driving this analagy into our collective consciousness? why is this popularizing? ive been seeing this crop up more and more frequently. it feels a bit like begging the question, except the arguer also holds TSLA
It's just a handy reference for energy usage, and I assume this figure is more readily available due to the car being battery powered. It's a bit harder to work out for an ICE-powered car, as you'd have to calculate the energy required to move the car based on aerodynamics and weight. I have no interest in TSLA stock, nor do I think Tesla is anything like the sustainable future of transportation. I mostly picked Tels…
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I'm saying that the Chinese government has determined that semiconductors are strategically important and is willing to pour yuan into fabs and developing their own process equipment industry. Semiconductor manufacturing is a very capital intensive business and the short-term market view in the West isn't well suited to remaining competitive in that space. Silicon Valley has very little to do with silicon anymore bec…
Thats great for them and great for US semiconductor companies since we are trading partners.