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Re: All the Ways Georgia Could Make It Harder to Vote

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Post by upbeat_general » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 6:52 PM UTC

nobodyCloak wrote: post #2

I don’t support all of those proposed changes, but I’m legitimately curious as to why, if the election process is so important and sacred, it is also too much to ask for some sort of proof that the person voting absentee is actually allowed to vote. I don’t like the witness signature requirement for absentees, but saying that people of a certain race can’t provide a driver’s license or some other state id because the…

It’s basically a consequence of us not having any national ID card.

Many people don’t have driver’s licenses (whose requirements vary by state), most people don’t have valid passports, etc.

If we had an ID card that every citizen would be reasonably expected to have and there was a nationally standardized way of getting it, then of course it would make sense to require that ID to vote.

Re: All the Ways Georgia Could Make It Harder to Vote

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Post by upbeat_general » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 6:53 PM UTC

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #10

cozzyd wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's about the process, which is roughly "find property X that produces the maximum separation between the groups we care about but would arouse the least suspicion" and then making X a requirement.

"You must be X rich to vote" seems like the low hanging fruit.

Except that arouses too much suspicion. Though in fairness that is what used to be the divider.

Re: All the Ways Georgia Could Make It Harder to Vote

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Post by throwaway0a5e » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 7:39 PM UTC

upbeat_general wrote: post #12

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"You must be X rich to vote" seems like the low hanging fruit.

Except that arouses too much suspicion. Though in fairness that is what used to be the divider.

"Must be a net tax payer" is the modern equivalent that gets thrown around. Obviously nobody on the left throws the idea around but I can't help but wonder if it would actually help them considering how many 16yos have jobs but are net tax payers because they have no dependents.

Re: All the Ways Georgia Could Make It Harder to Vote

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Post by cozzyd » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 7:49 PM UTC

throwaway0a5e wrote: post #13

upbeat_general wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Except that arouses too much suspicion. Though in fairness that is what used to be the divider.

"Must be a net tax payer" is the modern equivalent that gets thrown around. Obviously nobody on the left throws the idea around but I can't help but wonder if it would actually help them considering how many 16yos have jobs but are net tax payers because they have no dependents.

If people reporting business losses in any given year couldn't vote... I'm not so sure I'd be opposed!