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Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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I didn't correct myself. Did you look at the article? It doesn't purport to be neutral at all. There's a giant yellow sign that says "VOTE NO" with five bullet points about why you should vote against the union. The step-by-step instructions encourage you to vote no in three different places. There's no assumption or mind reading needed. To be honest, I don't see how OP could have been more clear: > Detailed, 6 step…

I'm not objecting to the article. I'm asking what the original comment was objecting to. We all know, before that comment, Amazon wants you to vote no. The OP was adding to that, in criticism of Amazon, by saying there are detailed six page instructions on how to vote the way they want. But that doesn't tell me what's to be outraged about -- as the first response noted, that is exactly what every other campaign does.…

You're reading too far into this. OP is just saying that Amazon's propaganda is slimy. Everyone else is on the same page here.

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no, working an additional job does not give you more hours in a day. rather it consumes time. what do you do at work?

I'm responding to what's written. If you have a job at walmart, they can't both have zero time to find another job because of being beholden to their job at walmart and have another job.

...but they can have zero time to find another job because of being beholden to their job at Walmart, and to the other job?

You're saying they should keep the Walmart job and get rid of the other, and spend the time freed up searching for one that's full time and paid enough to replace both, right? But if you can't support yourself and your dependants on the Walmart job alone, then that's risky.

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At best it's very arguable whether school choice results in children getting a better education.

I dunno. School isn’t primarily about academics. It’s mostly about moulding pupils, their minds to their current society. It’s mostly political in that sense. Whether it’s patriotism, community building, stressing this over that, etc. The three Rs are kind of incidental. Now to be clear, we do need to grow up to be functional adults, but public schooling is not the only one option to achieve that.

To be clear — when people refer to "school choice", they usually mean a system that funnels taxpayer dollars to private schools based on student attendance. Similarly, when people oppose "school choice", they usually oppose that appropriation of public funds specifically, not public school alternatives in general.

It's a sneaky name designed to make you conflate the two.

Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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Amazon's tactics in response to unionizing efforts been extremely revealing. Even if unionizing fails, I'm happy that it forced Amazon to show us all the level of contempt they have for their workforce.

To their workforce or to a potential cartel they'd be federally forced to deal with?

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When Teen Vogue calls someone a "billionaire vampire", is that a compliment, or are vampires out again?

They call Bezos a vampire because he uses other peoples blood plasma to keep himself young and healthy. He's a fking vampire.

I thought it was because he sparkles in the sunlight.

Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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Call me crazy but I think the employer should get to make their case too.

"As a trillion dollar company we can't afford better working conditions and pay for you"? The only reason Amazon raised their fulfillment pay was because Bernie Sanders shamed them into it [1]. [1] https://www.google.com/search?q=amazon+bernie+sanders+pay

You really think the only reason they increased their labor costs by billions is because a now irrelevant populist from Vermont doesn't like rich people?

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I'm not objecting to the article. I'm asking what the original comment was objecting to. We all know, before that comment, Amazon wants you to vote no. The OP was adding to that, in criticism of Amazon, by saying there are detailed six page instructions on how to vote the way they want. But that doesn't tell me what's to be outraged about -- as the first response noted, that is exactly what every other campaign does.…

You're reading too far into this. OP is just saying that Amazon's propaganda is slimy. Everyone else is on the same page here.

So, it's only as slimy as every other organization that gives you ballot instructions. Not sure that's the message you were trying to send.

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Call me crazy but I think the employer should get to make their case too.

If it were on equal grounding, or granted equal access, I'd agree.

Equal grounding would be that no one is in a union, or that the employees are in a union, and the companies are in a union of their own. So Amazon, Target, Walmart, etc all get to form their union to negotiate with Big Labour.

Its not fair that Walmart and Amazon must compete against each other to buy labor but the sellers of labor can form a cartel protected by the federal government.

Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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From a non-US point of view, this whole anti-union strategy from Amazon is somehow hilarious to witness on top of being sad. This kind of propaganda feels like its coming from another age, or dimension.

The depressing part is that this is actually an improvement over the violence and intimidation tactics of America's past. The US has never been a particularly union supportive country. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_union_busting_in_th...

Amazon uses agents from a company named Pinkerton to spy on their workers: https://www.vice.com/en/article/5dp3yn/amazon-leaked-reports...

No idea if it has any relation to the original Pinkerton strike-breakers, but using that name is pretty callous given its history.

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