This would be perfect think to spin off your own machines. Imagine downloading a Kicad files for motherboard, adding your own stuff, sending off to JLCPCB or similar for assembly and then stuffing into the laptop shell.
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#342In terms of design i value optimal decisions without going into extremities such as thinnest possible at all costs. Logo on the CRT-level of thickness bezels - nonsense.
Bookmarking this and waiting for the reviews.
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#343Earlier quoted context omitted.
laptops without an rj-45 ethernet connector are just dumb. it's perfectly feasible to integrate one. just look a the dell latitude 7390. really, look at it: https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/eB6gGRDZWSYT4XW6SeSMtf-120...
That's just a place to gather junk. People rarely use rj-45 these days, that's why it's not present on most laptops.
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#344Another laptop with arrow keys so small they're unusable. No usable arrow keys means useless computer. What is wrong with laptop manufacturers making these broken keys standard? There's hardly any laptop left I could buy. A bit longer and I will have to drag an external keyboard everywhere just to use my laptop. Or just forgo laptop at all and start carrying some miny PC. It's insanity.
I certainly can understand the frustration. To offer another point of view, I’m not sure I’ve touched my arrow keys once in the last several years. I might have, but I don’t remember it if I did.
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#345Where do I sign? I can't help but wonder if those won't be more expensive than a same specs Laptop. It would totally be understandable but still...
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#346Well, HN will love this. Moddable laptop with a good webcam? Nice. But: - I really dislike the arrow keys not having the air gap above left and right. You’d think they’d learn that from the MacBook butterfly keyboard era. - it’s a little disingenuous to say “no adapters” when in fact their little expansion cards are merely adapters that insert into the chassis of the laptop. Only four I/O ports is a little tight (des…
For me, the huge trackpad in the middle front is the problem. Centred trackpads, weren't a problem when they were about 1/2 the size, but they've steadily been getting bigger and bigger. Now almost all laptop trackpads are at a size where the base my thumb and the edge of my wrist brush against them, causing endless false touches. If I'm typing for any length of time on a laptop, I now always disable the touchpad and…
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#347Earlier quoted context omitted.
Keyboard and touchpad quality were high priorities for us. We built in 1.5mm key travel, which is unusually high for a <16mm thick laptop. The touchpad surface feels great and performs well. I hear you on the touchpad buttons though. That is something we've done a little exploration on. The touchpad is an end-user replaceable module, but we can't commit to a three button version materializing just yet.
Key travel isn't everything. The layout is important as well. This is the best layout humanity ever invented: https://www.notebookcheck.net/fileadmin/_processed_/c/0/csm_... Classic arrow keys, separate volume buttons, separate back/forward/pageup/pagedown, F1-F12 as the primary functions, …
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#348With an aluminum rather than magnesium or other body, how bad do you anticipate the flex will be?
Reinforcing fins can do quite a bit. Macbooks don't have a lot of flex. However, Apple has some patents that cover building up solid aluminum with stir welding instead of CNCing out of a solid block. You might have to challenge that patent (prior art, Boeing patents that may be older) to make it cheap, but if it's enthusiast targeted, an extra 50 bucks or whatever might be just fine for people.
The only real "weldable aluminium" known today are scandium-aluminium alloys which are both hard to get, and expensive.
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#349I was dreaming about such a laptop only a few days ago (admittedly with an IBM/Lenovo-like keyboard). Do you offer ANSI keyboards for European countries? It would be great if a nordic keyboard layout was an option and easily swapable.
We have both ANSI and ISO layouts, and we've designed the keyboard to be end-user replaceable. We'll be adding more keyboard languages as we expand into more countries. The clear keyboard shown in our product photos is actually real too! We'll be offering clear and blank for the people who want that.
By the way, I’d love to have a Trackpoint or an equivalent. Or a trackball.
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#350I know trackpads won, but would love a trackpoint. I keep buying Thinkpads solely for that feature.