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The Framework Laptop
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#312Earlier quoted context omitted.
"thin as an XPS 13, repairable as a custom-built gaming PC" was not actually a direct quote from us, but it's nice that the folks at Ars think of our design that way!
Good luck, very excited for this! Any chance of a Linux or no-OS option?
The article says there's a linux/no-os option
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#313Ars Technica has a sceptical but optimistic/hopeful take on it: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/02/framework-startup-de... Edit to add quote from Ars article: Framework is promising an awful lot in its very first product—"thin as an XPS 13, repairable as a custom-built gaming PC" is a pretty tall order to live up to. We very much want to believe, but it's going to take a full Ars Technica teardown before we're c…
"thin as an XPS 13, repairable as a custom-built gaming PC" was not actually a direct quote from us, but it's nice that the folks at Ars think of our design that way!
I hope this business of yours works out because a laptop that isn't a piece of junk with too much stuff I don't need inflating the price is something I've been wanting for a long time.
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#314I don't see any information on the licensing of the adapter card / inter-module interfaces. Can others build a Framework laptop without approval? Can others build cards without approval? Will it be a platform? Tell me how this isn't a Nespresso machine for silicon pods. :-) Edit: To be clear, even a "we have a generic base laptop and you can pick your I/O" concept is potentially a nice value prop, but it'd be good if…
tbh the adapter card really looks like a simple adaptor with an usb-c/thunderbolt plug on one side. it'll take a week or two for chinese knock-off to appear on aliexpress etc. what i wonder is: - can those cards be locked in place? - can i hotplug/hot-unplug them ?
They are hot swappable, and they latch in place. There is a button on the bottom of the system to release the latch.
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#315Another laptop with arrow keys so small they're unusable. No usable arrow keys means useless computer. What is wrong with laptop manufacturers making these broken keys standard? There's hardly any laptop left I could buy. A bit longer and I will have to drag an external keyboard everywhere just to use my laptop. Or just forgo laptop at all and start carrying some miny PC. It's insanity.
I certainly can understand the frustration. To offer another point of view, I’m not sure I’ve touched my arrow keys once in the last several years. I might have, but I don’t remember it if I did.
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#316Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kieran from Framework Here - Using it as my main machine for development running Ubuntu 20.04 right now. The main tweak is running a mainline kernel with some distributions as Tigerlake support is new.
Don’t get me wrong, it’d be great to have a good Linux laptop on the market. However, I’ve read too many Dell XPS reviews to stay on Mac(which is suboptimal due to the nature of my work). There’s always something that is misbehaving on Linux laptops: WiFi, the sleep mode(i.e. you open the laptop and it’s ready to work), touchpad, fingerprint reader. Maybe it’s too much to ask, but i) is your laptop MacBook-level smoo…
I bought a Lenovo X1 Carbon expecting excatly the situation you describe so stuck with the preinstalled Windows 10 for some months. I was pleasantly surprised when I summoned up the courage to try Debian. I had no trouble at all with all you described except the fingerprint reader (which Windows 10 also had trouble with FWIW). Was not planning on Linux as my daily driver but from Day 1 it worked well enough as an immediate replacement for Windows 10. The trackpad is not quite as good as the Mac but again seemed on par with the experience in Windows 10. Surprised you stayed on Mac despite listing fingerprint reader as a must have—I'm not aware Mac laptops have these?
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#317Hmmm nice idea but they left some obvious gaps.. With custom port selection, there should be more port options, like ethernet. The chassis is thick enough to support one of those collapsible sockets at the very least.
We have a few more Expansion Cards currently in development and a very long list of cards in early exploration. The ones we've announced so far are the ones we plan to have available at launch: USB-C, USB-A, HDMI, DisplayPort, MicroSD, and 250GB and 1TB storage.
Are the expansion cards large enough to accommodate a full-size SD card slot? My current laptop has a PCIe-attached SD card reader and it serves dual-use as storage for my windows VM and getting files off of my camera. The micro-SD cards I've tried are just too slow to run as the system disk for a windows VM.
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#319Earlier quoted context omitted.
Kieran from Framework Here - Using it as my main machine for development running Ubuntu 20.04 right now. The main tweak is running a mainline kernel with some distributions as Tigerlake support is new.
Nice to see that many of the developers/members of the team are GNU/Linux users. I would like to see if it can run other popular distros, like Elementary.
Debian too. Although the fact they use Ubuntu suggests Debian support should be a given.
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#320Neat - I wonder how it’ll turn out. It’s weird how little there is in the laptop space that’s actually good. Macs, Thinkpads, maybe Dell XPS? Everything else sucks. It’d be cool to have another high quality option.
The Razer laptops are IMO the best Windows option available. Not as good as the other options if you're running Linux, though.