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Re: The Framework Laptop

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Post by Vinnl »

> The Framework Laptop is made of 50% post consumer recycled (PCR) aluminum and an average of 30% PCR plastic.

Like others have mentioned, I'm immediately thinking of Fairphone. Definitely going to keep an eye on this and hope it's still on my mind when I'm next in the market. Until then, I'm hoping they'll looking into responsible sourcing of conflict minerals [1] [2], possibly in partnership with Fairphone.

Edit: Hmm, can't find an RSS feed. Anyone know if there's one I can follow somewhere?

[1] https://www.fairphone.com/en/impact/fair-materials-sourcing/

[2] https://www.fairphone.com/en/2017/02/01/fairer-materials-a-l...

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Post by alex_duf »

it seems like nrp is answering questions around here, so here's another one: will you be shipping to the UK and / or continental Europe?

Edit: found the answer: "We're shipping in the US and Canada this summer and opening up additional countries in Europe and Asia before the end of the year"

Re: The Framework Laptop

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Post by cat199 »

looks awesome!

but will take the opportunity to be a know it all critic from the peanut gallery to be annoyed by the schmarmy 'made with ♥' that i see on everything these days.. is anyone else as annoyed by this as I am? hmm...

wouldn't stop a potential purchase though. kudos!

Re: The Framework Laptop

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Post by tomtheelder »

OldHand2018 wrote: post #157
mattowen_uk wrote: post #145

Earlier quoted context omitted.

For me, the huge trackpad in the middle front is the problem. Centred trackpads, weren't a problem when they were about 1/2 the size, but they've steadily been getting bigger and bigger. Now almost all laptop trackpads are at a size where the base my thumb and the edge of my wrist brush against them, causing endless false touches. If I'm typing for any length of time on a laptop, I now always disable the touchpad and…

I hate Windows laptop trackpads because they seem to interpret everything as a click. Fortunately you can turn that off in Control Panel. Apple's default trackpad settings are good. EDIT - my new problem with Windows 10 is that it somehow interprets certain accidental motions on the trackpad as me wanting it to move to some sort of strange workspace overview screen that appears to be completely useless and not at all…

I think it's really case by case. My previous Dell laptop was a nightmare, but I have a Razer Blade now and the trackpad experience has been flawless, totally on par with my work issued Macbook.

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Post by ben_ »

VlijmenFileer wrote: post #295

Another laptop with arrow keys so small they're unusable. No usable arrow keys means useless computer. What is wrong with laptop manufacturers making these broken keys standard? There's hardly any laptop left I could buy. A bit longer and I will have to drag an external keyboard everywhere just to use my laptop. Or just forgo laptop at all and start carrying some miny PC. It's insanity.

Swappable keyboard

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Post by bo1024 »

nrp wrote: post #183
samizdis wrote: post #103

Ars Technica has a sceptical but optimistic/hopeful take on it: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/02/framework-startup-de... Edit to add quote from Ars article: Framework is promising an awful lot in its very first product—"thin as an XPS 13, repairable as a custom-built gaming PC" is a pretty tall order to live up to. We very much want to believe, but it's going to take a full Ars Technica teardown before we're c…

"thin as an XPS 13, repairable as a custom-built gaming PC" was not actually a direct quote from us, but it's nice that the folks at Ars think of our design that way!

Good luck, very excited for this! Any chance of a Linux or no-OS option?

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Post by 1stcity3rdcoast »

nrp wrote: post #183
samizdis wrote: post #103

Ars Technica has a sceptical but optimistic/hopeful take on it: https://arstechnica.com/gadgets/2021/02/framework-startup-de... Edit to add quote from Ars article: Framework is promising an awful lot in its very first product—"thin as an XPS 13, repairable as a custom-built gaming PC" is a pretty tall order to live up to. We very much want to believe, but it's going to take a full Ars Technica teardown before we're c…

"thin as an XPS 13, repairable as a custom-built gaming PC" was not actually a direct quote from us, but it's nice that the folks at Ars think of our design that way!

This is super exciting and I can't wait to see the machines in the wild. Congrats on the launch!

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Post by aidenn0 »

nrp wrote: post #148
auraham wrote: post #144

This seems to be a really great product. I understand many of its features may change in the future. However, I would like to see a spec sheet in the website. Also, I wonder what is the difference between the standard model and the DIY version. On the other hand, the interior and exterior of the laptop look gorgeous.

At launch, the standard pre-built model and DIY have the same CPU options available. DIY allows a broader range of memory and storage options, including bringing your own. The pre-built offers Windows 10 Home or Pro, while DIY offers those plus the option to ship without an OS installed. Both versions allow Expansion Card selection at order time. Edit: And we will be sharing full spec sheets before we open pre-orders…

Ironically I wish you launched a bit later; my laptop is only 3 years old and it would be rather ironic were I to throw it out to move to something more sustainable. I'll have to hope you succeed enough to still be around when it's 5-10 years old (or something breaks that I can't fix with the appropriate application of hot-air).

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Post by kitsunesoba »

folkrav wrote: post #127
gonehome wrote: post #98

Neat - I wonder how it’ll turn out. It’s weird how little there is in the laptop space that’s actually good. Macs, Thinkpads, maybe Dell XPS? Everything else sucks. It’d be cool to have another high quality option.

Thinkpads are far from being uniformly good, some models flat out suck. Macs aren't immune to lemons either - see all the issues with their keyboards after 2016, or the failing GPUs in some MBPs. Some XPSes are good, but many models had horrible coil whine as well. The LG gram was fine, if light and portable was what you're looking for. The HP Envy line has been pretty decent recently. Back in school I've had an Asus…

I recently strongly considered a System76 Lemur but ultimately opted for a Thinkpad X1 Nano instead due to reports of QC issues with Clevo (and thus System76) laptops. It's too bad because I think they get a lot right with bringing Linux to the general consumer market, and Pop!_OS gets a few things right that plain Ubuntu gets wrong.
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