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Re: The Framework Laptop

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You have my attention. Will there be support for other processor architecture's at some point?

Assuming this isn't vaporware, and is near as good as it sounds, this checks all the boxes I'd like for a laptop, esp. if it gets ARM and/or RISC support.

Re: The Framework Laptop

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Will you support Thunderbolt 3? The use of going portable and then docking in with a top of the line video card, monitor and proper keyboards is so exciting.

We support USB4 - which has similar performance as thunderbolt 3. Multiple display pipes + USB + PCIE tunneling. It also supports 40gbps of aggregate bandwidth per port. Tigerlake also supports HBR3 with display compression - so you can run multiple 4k displays from a single port.

Re: The Framework Laptop

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> with the ability to choose Windows or install your preferred Linux distribution. 10$ says it’s going to be quite an effort to run Linux on it. Nice idea though.

Kieran from Framework Here - Using it as my main machine for development running Ubuntu 20.04 right now. The main tweak is running a mainline kernel with some distributions as Tigerlake support is new.

Nice to see that many of the developers/members of the team are GNU/Linux users. I would like to see if it can run other popular distros, like Elementary.

Re: The Framework Laptop

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I don't see any information on the licensing of the adapter card / inter-module interfaces. Can others build a Framework laptop without approval? Can others build cards without approval? Will it be a platform? Tell me how this isn't a Nespresso machine for silicon pods. :-) Edit: To be clear, even a "we have a generic base laptop and you can pick your I/O" concept is potentially a nice value prop, but it'd be good if…

We will be releasing specifications and reference designs for the Expansion Card system under a permissive license. We want to make it easy for both other companies and members of the community to develop their own cards and sell them through the Framework Marketplace. That is something we'll be detailing and sharing between now and the time we start shipping out the product. We'll also provide documentation around i…

Any chance of the company ever releasing only the chassis so I can buy it and put my favorite arm sbc inside it?

Re: The Framework Laptop

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Will you support Thunderbolt 3? The use of going portable and then docking in with a top of the line video card, monitor and proper keyboards is so exciting.

We support USB4 - which has similar performance as thunderbolt 3. Multiple display pipes + USB + PCIE tunneling. It also supports 40gbps of aggregate bandwidth per port. Tigerlake also supports HBR3 with display compression - so you can run multiple 4k displays from a single port.

USB4 is documented to be upward compatible with Thunderbolt 3.

Thanks for the response.

Will be wanting to try https://www.sonnettech.com/product/egfx-breakaway-box/overvi... on The Framework Laptop.

Excited!

Re: The Framework Laptop

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Well, HN will love this. Moddable laptop with a good webcam? Nice. But: - I really dislike the arrow keys not having the air gap above left and right. You’d think they’d learn that from the MacBook butterfly keyboard era. - it’s a little disingenuous to say “no adapters” when in fact their little expansion cards are merely adapters that insert into the chassis of the laptop. Only four I/O ports is a little tight (des…

The arrow keys were an interesting challenge. We actually prototyped both versions, and the full height ones ended up feeling better to most folks. It's definitely a matter of personal preference though. The Framework Laptop comes in at 15.85mm thick and 1.3kg. So a couple of sheets of paper thicker than a 13" MacBook Pro, but a bit lighter. On the Expansion Cards, that is fair. We can say we're getting rid of the ne…

What's the chance of a thicker/deeper version in the future? I'd love to see one with enough thickness to support a low profile mechanical keyboard for custom layouts.

With my RSI, I'm almost unable to use standard laptop keyboards, so I have to travel with a split ergo keyboard. Most laptops have enough room to support a split ortho layout, but aren't thick enough (or modular enough) for enthusiasts to roll their own.

Take a look at the Thinkeys [0] and pineapple60 [1] projects for what's possible.

[0]: https://github.com/dennisleexyz/thinkeys [1]: https://github.com/saoto28/pineapple60

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