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Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29

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Curious for one of my favorite apps, can anyone comment on BetterTouchTool ( http://www.boastr.de/ ) quality on the new build?

The first part of today's keynote had a strong emphasis on multitouch and gestures being integrated into the OS. As a BTT user myself I'm very curious to see if BTT has been obsoleted by Apple.

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Not sure why below comment is dead. The account seems ok and not hell banned. Was it flagged to death? If so, anyone who flagged it,why? dsplittgerber 24 minutes ago | link [dead] Anyone else surprised by how many hugely popular apps Apple is going to kill with new Lion/iOS? Instapaper built-into Safari now, all kinds of messanger apps killed by iMessage, some of those photo apps going down the drain as well, Reminde…

That is sharecropping. If you play on another corporation's turf, expect this to happen and expect your income to be destroyed with zero days notice.

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#103

>This isn’t actually the first time Apple has offered an OS upgrade at a steep discount compared to its Windows rival (which typically runs over $100) — Snow Leopard made its debut at $29. A pretty flawed apples to oranges comparison. OS X is more similar to bios updates... you buy the hardware, the vendor makes money off it and gives away the software. With Microsoft, you're paying the OEM money for the hardware(wit…

True, but if Vista was $29 more people might have done it in the first place.

There was so much bad PR, noone would bother. They tried to give corporate customers (select agreement sized ones) free copies and they said no.

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This is par for the course with Apple. I remember back in the day there was this super popular shareware app called Aaron that gave System 7 users a System 8 looking theme. Keep in mind this was the dark ages of Apple. Aaron evolved into Kaleidoscope. A general purpose shareware theme manager that was met with enthusiasm by the Mac community. Kaleidoscope was synonymous with themes on Mac OS. http://www.kaleidoscope.…

As a former registered user of Kaleidoscope, I have to say it destabilized your system because of the necessary system hacks. What you say about Apple stealing good designs is definitely true ( http://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/ ), but Kaleidoscope had other issues.

> http://www.panic.com/extras/audionstory/

That's not a case of Apple stealing good design though, that's a case of them buying an Audion competitor.

I'm sure Marco would have been far happier if Apple had bought instapaper. Or TapTapTap if Apple had bought Camera+.

Hell, that would have been rather cool, it could have given third-party developers an interesting incentive: build something Apple will want to integrate in their core OS, and they'll buy you wholesale.

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True, but if Vista was $29 more people might have done it in the first place.

There was so much bad PR, noone would bother. They tried to give corporate customers (select agreement sized ones) free copies and they said no.

They didn't try with me. They didn't try with any of my friends. I think they're trying with the wrong crowd.

Interesting side thought here (at least to me). MS has traditionally done very well selling to the larger enterprise market. As the headcount in those orgs go down, will MS' influence drop? Newer people coming in will probably have come from smaller orgs where MS is less prevalent, and when there's overall fewer people at an org, there's fewer people to influence/market to.

I tell a lie. I had/have an Ultimate Vista that I won at a local user group raffle. I've installed it, but in virtual machines, which I've lost a couple times. Getting it re set up by going through the 'call up and get reactivated' is always a pain. :(

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Not sure why below comment is dead. The account seems ok and not hell banned. Was it flagged to death? If so, anyone who flagged it,why? dsplittgerber 24 minutes ago | link [dead] Anyone else surprised by how many hugely popular apps Apple is going to kill with new Lion/iOS? Instapaper built-into Safari now, all kinds of messanger apps killed by iMessage, some of those photo apps going down the drain as well, Reminde…

Compare LockInfo (commercial jailbroken app): http://cdn.techhail.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/LockInfo-... With the new notifications: http://photos.macrumorslive.com/p/2011-06-06/f1307382511.jpg

I find the general look of the new notifications much closer to MobileNotifier, whose lead dev (Peter Hajas) was just hired by Apple.

That's actually the fairest case by far, as they basically "bought" the project through its lead dev.

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I accidentally clicked twice and two identical comments were created. I deleted one. Alas, the other seems to have gone rougue as well.

This has happened to me before - I triple posted, then deleted two comments to find that the remaining one was marked dead. I think HN has duplicate detection and dupes get marked dead automatically, so one should keep this in mind when manually deleting duplicate posts. It's good to wait a few minutes and see whether it's already taken care of.

I wonder if this is part of the reason there's a large number of [dead] comments that are perfectly reasonable. Either way, it seems like it would be a much better solution to simply delete the duplicate. If it can be detected to [dead] it, then it should be deletable, right?

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I don't mean to be off topic, but I really feel, although this is an improvement on the price of Windows upgrade, I think that there is nothing in this release that would drive me off any Linux, particularly a rolling release distribution.

I know that for certain fields, such as multimedia, apple offers a lot, but with new offerings such as Gnome 3, a mature KDE 4, and Ubuntu's unity, for the standard desktop user or developer for that matter, I argue that Linux should enthrall and for one of the first times the difference in price tag isn't the only plus. Stability, Safety and polish are quickly becoming relevant keywords for Linux desktops.

Although the new Unity and Gnome Shell may lack the stability, you can always fall back on the watertight Gnome default desktop.

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

I accidentally clicked twice and two identical comments were created. I deleted one. Alas, the other seems to have gone rougue as well.

This has happened to me before - I triple posted, then deleted two comments to find that the remaining one was marked dead. I think HN has duplicate detection and dupes get marked dead automatically, so one should keep this in mind when manually deleting duplicate posts. It's good to wait a few minutes and see whether it's already taken care of.

Also has happened to me. It's why I have showdead on.
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