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The Framework Laptop

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Re: The Framework Laptop

#21

Great. Another laptop with 1/2 arrow keys. Such a shame.

I feel you. IMHO Lenovo still makes the best laptop keybaord layouts for coding, typing and gaming. Check out their Legion series.

I agree. If I ever get a new machine it will be a Lenovo. The build quality is amazing.

Re: The Framework Laptop

#23
post #12

As someone who swaps laptops out a lot, I'm down to get one. I'm also the same kind of person that buys an X1 Extreme for it's ability to be repaired. I'm also curious about price, but I'm assuming that hasn't been decided. That said: > Founded in San Francisco in 2019 I'd love to see these kind of companies founded outside of this area in the future.

Sorry, why does it matter where they’re founded?

Re: The Framework Laptop

#24
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way?

it will be expensive because it liiks like the first teuly modular laptop. it will get cheaper if it has a big enough market. so in a long enough time frame it does not matter

I couldn't see it from the introduction, but is it differently modular than old Lenovo's? Like the X220 which I use as daily driver? I guess the flexible ports layout is different but the X220 has enough anyway.

Re: The Framework Laptop

#25
I always think of The Sandbenders from William Gibson’s Idoru when I see projects like this.

It might be worth publishing enough of the internal CAD measurements as specs so that artists could create their own enclosures / cool addons and be sure that they will have parts access.

Anyway, my first thought was ‘will an m1 board fit in there?’ so I am looking forward to seeing your release!

Re: The Framework Laptop

#26
post #20

Will it run with completely free software? The limiting factor for lasting is not hardware but required proprietary software.

Are you implying they’re going to stop you from popping Ubuntu on it somehow?

[Edit: Thanks for all the replies citing driver blobs and proprietary BIOS issues, totally slipped my mind that that was a concern, makes a ton more sense now.]

Re: The Framework Laptop

#27
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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Framework founder here. We'll be announcing pricing shortly before we open pre-orders this spring. We won't be asking consumers to pay a premium for longevity, and will be setting pricing to be comparable to other popular notebooks using the same silicon.

What about shipping and deliveries to regions other than US, like EU for example? How will your volumes look during this silicon shortage?

We're shipping in the US and Canada this summer and opening up additional countries in Europe and Asia before the end of the year. In the future, we will launch modules and products worldwide closer to the same date, but we're pacing ourselves on inventory on the first launch.

We placed our forecasts and risk buys on most chips early in anticipation of the silicon crunch that is coming this year. So far, we don't see anything that puts us at risk, short of there being massive unexpected upside on consumer demand (a good problem to have!).

Re: The Framework Laptop

#28

Great. Another laptop with 1/2 arrow keys. Such a shame.

Yea, fun fact: I like my Acer Nitro 5. I'm an Apple fan through and through, but I also like to run Linux and Windows and haven't done that in a while, so I bought an Acer.

I'm using my Acer now more as a dev laptop and my Mac more as a free time laptop. What I'm noticing is that I'm enjoying the typing experience on the Nitro 5 more, in particular because it has decent arrows (and a numpad :) ).

Re: The Framework Laptop

#29
post #12

As someone who swaps laptops out a lot, I'm down to get one. I'm also the same kind of person that buys an X1 Extreme for it's ability to be repaired. I'm also curious about price, but I'm assuming that hasn't been decided. That said: > Founded in San Francisco in 2019 I'd love to see these kind of companies founded outside of this area in the future.

I can understand the strong benefits for startups starting in the Bay Area; I would like to see more of them migrate OUT at an appropriate time (which would be slightly before FAANG valuation in my mind).

Remote work may solve some of this, but eventually the extended runways available at "lower altitudes" (to bend the metaphor) will become worthwhile.

Re: The Framework Laptop

#30
post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In what way?

it will be expensive because it liiks like the first teuly modular laptop. it will get cheaper if it has a big enough market. so in a long enough time frame it does not matter

Founder in sister thread explicitly says they aren’t planning on charging a premium for longevity. Besides, even at Apple level prices, a perpetually upgradable system essentially pays for itself eventually.
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