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Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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Detailed, 6 step instructions on how to open a ballot and mark no? Thanks, amazon. This is almost as scummy as asking the city to change traffic lights so union organizers have a harder time talking to workers in between shifts. https://www.al.com/business/2021/02/jefferson-county-now-say...

I got instructions from more than one party this past fall on how to fill out a ballot and mail it early and etc.

Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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post #31

Detailed, 6 step instructions on how to open a ballot and mark no? Thanks, amazon. This is almost as scummy as asking the city to change traffic lights so union organizers have a harder time talking to workers in between shifts. https://www.al.com/business/2021/02/jefferson-county-now-say...

I got instructions from more than one party this past fall on how to fill out a ballot and mail it early and etc.

Did they tell you which way to vote, though? And giving reasoning for why (this actually wouldn't surprise me)?

Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

#33

From a non-US point of view, this whole anti-union strategy from Amazon is somehow hilarious to witness on top of being sad. This kind of propaganda feels like its coming from another age, or dimension.

The depressing part is that this is actually an improvement over the violence and intimidation tactics of America's past. The US has never been a particularly union supportive country.

See:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_union_busting_in_th...

Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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post #31

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I got instructions from more than one party this past fall on how to fill out a ballot and mail it early and etc.

Did they tell you which way to vote, though? And giving reasoning for why (this actually wouldn't surprise me)?

Yes they told me exactly who I should vote for and why.

Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

#37

Ugh, this is disgusting and so patronising. Edit: Also, why are "union avoidance consultants" a thing? The US needs to fix its culture around unions. That's absolutely wild.

Why pay your employees when you can pay a consultant to show how to keep your employee costs low? /s

My father used to work at a facility that actually paid non-union employees more than union employees. It was at a remote location, so any sort of strike would have cost tons of money with no way to get replacements in. Any time the union negotiated a raise, the company gave the non-union employees a bigger raise, because the extra cost was worth not having to worry about a strike shutting everything down.

Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

#38

Amazon's tactics in response to unionizing efforts been extremely revealing. Even if unionizing fails, I'm happy that it forced Amazon to show us all the level of contempt they have for their workforce.

Every corporation has contempt for its workforce, it's why labor unions are so necessary.

Nearly every corporation has naked contempt for its “human resources”, that's why it calls them, and the department responsible for minimizing the cost of exploiting them, “human resources”.

Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did they tell you which way to vote, though? And giving reasoning for why (this actually wouldn't surprise me)?

Yes they told me exactly who I should vote for and why.

Hm. In my opinion that isn't as bad, but I can't put my finger on why.

This is one reason: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=26263866

Re: Amazon Sends ‘Vote No’ Instructions to Unionizing Employees

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

By making any case other than robust worker rights and fair compensation, they have demonstrated their culture and priorities as a corporation. But, by all means, I agree that one shouldn't stop their enemy when they're pointing a gun at their feet (edit: to clarify, this implies Amazon is making a strategic failure by fighting unionization efforts, at it reflects poorly on them).

You're hyperbole strikes me as ... kinda out there. Not sure anyone has guns pointed at anyone in this case.

Your comments strike me as unaware or complacent.

https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2020/04/29/Leaving-A...

https://www.tbray.org/ongoing/When/202x/2020/05/06/Answers

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2020/feb/05/amazon-wo...

https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/article/youre-just-dispos...

https://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2019/11/amazo...

https://nypost.com/2019/07/13/inside-the-hellish-workday-of-...

https://www.theverge.com/2019/7/16/20696154/amazon-prime-day...

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