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Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

#132

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> No, donations are not cutting it It probably doesn't help that you can't choose to donate to/for Firefox. If you disagree with other things Mozilla is doing, perhaps moreso than the things you agree with, then you don't really have much options. For many people, advertisements - especially ones enabled without announcement, sneakily - are simply an unacceptable red line, nomatter how important Mozilla thinks they a…

Right, now the goalposts have shifted. You aren’t donating because “you can’t donate specifically to Firefox, only to Mozilla as a whole”. What ridiculous excuse will you people come up with next?

Alright, I'll bite. I donate quite a bit of my income to FOSS projects (which is pretty low due to living in the third world, so it's not a lot of money). I would gladly donate specifically towards Firefox development, but they are not spending donations on Firefox at all, and I would rather spend that cast (which I don't have a lot of) towards some other technical goal like Wayland infrastructure development, instead of wasting it (as I see it) to advance some social goal in the US which is completely alien to me.

I should also add that I never disable any telemetry in Firefox or anything that helps them earn a cent or two (as long as it does not abuse my privacy too much, and there were not a lot of those during 15+ years of using Firefox exclusively.)

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

#133

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I make monthly donations to Mozilla to support their cause. I will stop my donations and migrate to a different browser if they continue down this path.

You realise how weird this sounds, right? Presumably you donate because you care about the Mozilla mission, and those ads are there because donations alone aren't enough, and relying purely on Google's money is also not a great strategy. What do you want them to do, invent money out of thin air? And it's still Firefox: if you're upset enough to consider "migration to a different browser", why not instead get upset en…

You know what most sites and services do when they need our help? They ask.

If Mozilla is going broke, ask for donations by all means! Slap ads all over Firefox by all means.

Get my consent first though, eh? Give me a chance to open my wallet before you start ruining the only reason I interact with your company.

Can I note this is not the first time Firefox had made people think they've been hacked for monetary gain. I also disabled any and all checkboxes that involved being experimented on which they have ignored for this one.

Remember when they promised it wouldn't happen again? I do.

https://www.cnet.com/news/mozilla-investigates-mr-robot-fire...

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

#134
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Put any preferred tweaks in a user.js file in the profile directory, // commented with meanings and reasons, and save wetware memory.

When I was young and enthusiastic I used to maintain user and chrome CSS overrides like that. Synced via DropBox no less! Now I am older and tired of doing the symlinking every time I setup a new install of Ff.

Just copy your ~/.mozilla everywhere. I too have been using the same profile for about a decade, across many machines.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

#135

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I make monthly donations to Mozilla to support their cause. I will stop my donations and migrate to a different browser if they continue down this path.

You realise how weird this sounds, right? Presumably you donate because you care about the Mozilla mission, and those ads are there because donations alone aren't enough, and relying purely on Google's money is also not a great strategy. What do you want them to do, invent money out of thin air? And it's still Firefox: if you're upset enough to consider "migration to a different browser", why not instead get upset en…

> You realise how weird this sounds, right? Presumably you donate because you care about the Mozilla mission, and those ads are there because donations alone aren't enough, and relying purely on Google's money is also not a great strategy

It also feels weird to donate to have an ad-free, privacy first, open source browser and get ads in it.

> And it's still Firefox: if you're upset enough to consider "migration to a different browser", why not instead get upset enough to just look up the pref that turns them off?

Default settings matter. "Just turn it off" is not a valid suggestion in my opinion.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

#136

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I make monthly donations to Mozilla to support their cause. I will stop my donations and migrate to a different browser if they continue down this path.

You realise how weird this sounds, right? Presumably you donate because you care about the Mozilla mission, and those ads are there because donations alone aren't enough, and relying purely on Google's money is also not a great strategy. What do you want them to do, invent money out of thin air? And it's still Firefox: if you're upset enough to consider "migration to a different browser", why not instead get upset en…

> What do you want them to do, invent money out of thin air?

You're talking of Bitcoin donations, right? ;-)

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

#137
> If a tracker tracker.example (as classified by the Enhanced Tracking Protection) redirects to a non-tracker a.example and tracker.example received user interaction as a first-party within the last 45 days, tracker.example is granted storage access to a.example for 15 minutes.

Why is Mozilla creating a special exception for Facebook (and Google) while those two are the worst privacy invaders?

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

#138

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They don't spend donations on Firefox at all.

Do you have a source for this?

I was pretty sure they said it fairly plainly on their own site but what I could immediately find was more roundabout. You can see the things donations are used for here: https://foundation.mozilla.org

For a more straightforward statement, try this HN post relaying one user's correspondence with the Mozilla Foundation: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=20895624

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

#139

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> No, donations are not cutting it It probably doesn't help that you can't choose to donate to/for Firefox. If you disagree with other things Mozilla is doing, perhaps moreso than the things you agree with, then you don't really have much options. For many people, advertisements - especially ones enabled without announcement, sneakily - are simply an unacceptable red line, nomatter how important Mozilla thinks they a…

Right, now the goalposts have shifted. You aren’t donating because “you can’t donate specifically to Firefox, only to Mozilla as a whole”. What ridiculous excuse will you people come up with next?

It's not really shifting the goalposts if your suggestion was donate to Firefox and the answer is you can't.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

#140
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> Ok, well suggest a different way they can make money then. Don't. If that means not doing further development, great. Leave that to people who want to make the software better, not worse. If you can find a way to monetise software, that's fantastic, but if that monetisation requires degrading quality I have no respect for it.

Guess what, “the people who want to make the software better” can start today! Just fork it, it’s all open source! Wait, why hasn’t that happened yet? Is it because those people have bills to pay? Hmm...

> Wait, why hasn’t that happened yet?

You mean apart from Pale Moon, Basilisk, Waterfox, Tor, XB, Iceweasel, Swiftfox, Swiftweasel, Cometbird, and IceDragon?

Yeah no idea why that thing that has happened several times hasn't happened.

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