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17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by Qwertious »

wongarsu wrote: post #47
NoodleIncident wrote: post #37

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please remove the link.

The link is good and insightful, if you copy-paste it into the browser bar. If you click it it redirect to a fairly tasteless image complaining about being linked from HN.

The whole thing is less than a page long and dead simple, I'm just going to copy/paste the entire page verbatim:

> The CADT Model

>© 2003 Jamie Zawinski

>In February 2003, a bunch of the outstanding bugs I'd reported against various GNOME programs over the previous couple of years were all closed as follows:

>>Because of the release of GNOME 2.0 and 2.2, and the lack of interest in maintainership of GNOME 1.4, the gnome-core product is being closed. If you feel your bug is still of relevance to GNOME 2, please reopen it and refile it against a more appropriate component. Thanks...

>This is, I think, the most common way for my bug reports to open source software projects to ever become closed. I report bugs; they go unread for a year, sometimes two; and then (surprise!) that module is rewritten from scratch -- and the new maintainer can't be bothered to check whether his new version has actually solved any of the known problems that existed in the previous version.

>I'm so totally impressed at this Way New Development Paradigm. Let's call it the *"Cascade of Attention-Deficit Teenagers"* model, or *"CADT"* for short.

>It hardly seems worth even having a bug system if the frequency of from-scratch rewrites always outstrips the pace of bug fixing. Why not be honest and resign yourself to the fact that version 0.8 is followed by version 0.8, which is then followed by version 0.8?

>But that's what happens when there is no incentive for people to do the parts of programming that aren't fun. Fixing bugs isn't fun; going through the bug list isn't fun; but rewriting everything from scratch is fun (because "this time it will be done right", ha ha) and so that's what happens, over and over again.

[random GIF of a compass, that links to the homepage]

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by treesprite82 »

bhandziuk wrote: post #112
chrisseaton wrote: post #101

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Sorry not sure what you mean? This is exactly how Safari, Chrome, and I guess others I can't immediately test work. Seems good to work as expected from other browsers?

They're saying, I think, that the textbox which is a URL is a special textbox but it shouldn't be. It should be the same as any other textbox in Firefox.

> It should be the same as any other textbox in Firefox

Editing strings in `about:config` seems to behave identical to the URL bar, and Ctrl+F behaviour is similar (but other search bars, like in settings, do not highlight all). Possibly more, just did a quick check of the text boxes I remember Firefox's UI having.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by dralley »

pseudalopex wrote: post #90
dralley wrote: post #53

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I suspect the vast majority of bugs are exclusively using Bugzilla. Maybe they use Jira for roadmapping or security bugs.

Other open source projects plan in public. Bugzilla can restrict viewing security bugs.

Few other open source projects are as large as Firefox.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by sfink »

teknopaul wrote: post #99
Spivak wrote: post #49

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Even if you disagree with the reason might as well give the devs’ stance on it. > it [single clicking not selecting all] was a special behavior only implemented for Linux, it was not consistent with Firefox on other OSes, and with other browsers on Linux itself. The prefs were causing broken edge cases complicate to handle, taking into account all the possible pref combinations (for example under certain combinations…

Wontfixzilla with comments disabled is a clear statement. Is a wontfix with lots of comments more expensive, than a wontfix with comments blocked? Shame you cant "give the devs opinion" on bugzilla.

I'm not totally following what you're saying, but I can answer this:

> Is a wontfix with lots of comments more expensive, than a wontfix with comments blocked?

Yes, it is more expensive. When 100 developers are CC'd on a bug that is generating regular "but did you consider this argument?" comments, it's a lot of overhead.

You could argue that everyone CC'd should remove themselves from the CC list when this happens, but by that time we'd already have taken the hit.

These bugs are not fun for anybody, dev or unhappy user alike.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by Wowfunhappy »

CompuHacker wrote: post #140
teknopaul wrote: post #116

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It's sad but true. Googling is probably Firefox's only feature left. After they trashed the dev ecosystem, removed file access, prevented 127. access and prevented ssl bypass for 10. and 192.168. broke markdown rendering, disabled CD access, made development painful, fsckd ftp, banned useful stuff on file:// removed anything useful from about: made developing inside Firefox a nonstarter, borked Web app, and generally…

Firefox 55 has all of those features! I just never updated. Sure, these extensions and workarounds are dangerous and inconvenient, but I do love well behaved web browsers.

Wow! Consider moving to Pale Moon at least, it will work with more sites and gets security patches.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by andredz »

Izkata wrote: post #147
gdrift wrote: post #45

One of the most voted for issues is closed WONTFIX: single click selects all in address bar and search box. I use Firefox exclusively and this is the single most annoying change they made for no apparent reason. So annoying. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621570 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?votes=133

> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?votes=133 No longer shows up here, because it's now 135 votes.

Not anymore ;) https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?votes=136&list_id=1...

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by bzbarsky »

seppel wrote: post #42
jaas wrote: post #36

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It’s probably private because it is used for internal systems. It’s probably .com because it’s for Mozilla Corporation as opposed to Mozilla Foundation.

Still interesting that they internally dont use bugzilla. I wasnt aware.

Some project managers use Jira. Developers use Bugzilla.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by thombles »

adrusi wrote: post #149
teruakohatu wrote: post #95

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Unfortunately user-configurability seems to be a out of fashion these days.

Firefox, despite the impression that HN might give, is still very configurable. The existence of about:config means Mozilla can add options without cluttering the more accessible preferences menu. I'm perfectly happy with the default behavior of selecting everything by default, but it does seem like the sort of thing that would be nice to make configurable by those who are willing to mess with about:config.

The linked bug report is literally that one of the about:config preferences has been removed and will no longer be respected.
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