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Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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Why is it embarrassing? They obviously did well enough to be worth acquiring.

See the example of Tesla 2013. Apple is not hiring to keep the startup or the innovation. But for the up or even worst:for the talent. Its like selling your house to the scrap guy

Typo "for the IP or talent"

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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So ~15 companies a year? That doesn't sound outrageous for a company with billions and billions of dollars in the bank, and billions more coming in every quarter. edit: If anything there's probably immense pressure on Cook to buy buy buy more stuff. I don't think anyone inside Apple wants to have a repeat of stuff like old Apple maps or other products that just languished and died internally while external companies…

The issue is not the money - it's the ability to integrate.

M&A and cooltech is by far the easiest part. Making use of the tech, the talent, operational integration, re-writes vs. integration, product alignment, etc. it's very hard on every level.

What do you do with the VP of a 50 person company, now they are managers in a little team, the software might be discarded, or just a few ideas used from it etc. etc..

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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Is that a lot? How many does a similarly positioned company buy, say Alphabet, Dell, or Cisco? Seems like every time I find a neat niche networking or security product I like, Cisco or someone ends up buying it. Context would’ve been helpful in this article.

Alphabet is faster. As Cory Doctorow mentioned in one of his talks, they buy companies more often than most people go to the grocery store.

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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An acqui-hire is typically considered a failure for VC-backed startups. (Not that one should necessarily be embarrassed for “failing” in this way, but that’s just the reality).

I could think of worse things than getting acqui-hired by a FAANG and made a Director or something in the company. Not sure that's much of a failure honestly!

It's certainly better than going insolvent, but it also implies that you company has failed to reach the usual hockey-stick growth targets and that your IP is "worthless" enough to be bought as overhead for hiring someone. So, while not a total failure, it's really not a compliment.

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why is it embarrassing? They obviously did well enough to be worth acquiring.

See the example of Tesla 2013. Apple is not hiring to keep the startup or the innovation. But for the up or even worst:for the talent. Its like selling your house to the scrap guy

Yeah - I mean I guess you can make it sound bad.

But a ‘pivot’ is essentially the same thing - in terms of what gets scrapped.

I see an acquihire as the market actually validating your company value even if you haven’t pivoted into a hockey stick product.

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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post #22

So ~15 companies a year? That doesn't sound outrageous for a company with billions and billions of dollars in the bank, and billions more coming in every quarter. edit: If anything there's probably immense pressure on Cook to buy buy buy more stuff. I don't think anyone inside Apple wants to have a repeat of stuff like old Apple maps or other products that just languished and died internally while external companies…

The issue is not the money - it's the ability to integrate. M&A and cooltech is by far the easiest part. Making use of the tech, the talent, operational integration, re-writes vs. integration, product alignment, etc. it's very hard on every level. What do you do with the VP of a 50 person company, now they are managers in a little team, the software might be discarded, or just a few ideas used from it etc. etc..

You only need 1 to pay off for it to be worth it. The rest can be deprecated and team reallocated.

Not saying it is right, but makes sense for a business of that scale.

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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post #23

Is that a lot? How many does a similarly positioned company buy, say Alphabet, Dell, or Cisco? Seems like every time I find a neat niche networking or security product I like, Cisco or someone ends up buying it. Context would’ve been helpful in this article.

Alphabet is faster. As Cory Doctorow mentioned in one of his talks, they buy companies more often than most people go to the grocery store.

So...26 a year? That's in the same range.

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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post #16

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When a lifestyle business is bought-out, assuming the employees are also significant equity stakeholders, do they typically get compensated for the loss of expected lifetime earnings - and/or a contractual right to buy back their IP from Apple, given that an acqui-hire is not guaranteed to be in the employees’ best-interests - or be long-lasting? Just asking - because if my company were to be acqui-hired I have serio…

They wouldn't extend an offer to you in this case. Acqui-hires have no upside for employees and barely any for founders. Some small return to investors to sign off on the acquihire. Usually most people still have to interview for their jobs.

Acquihires do often have employee upside, in the form of large stock-based compensation grants or bonus payouts, typically spread over a vesting period of several years. There's no point in the acquihire if you don't retain the employees, and relative to the cost to acquire the company these payouts aren't huge.

You're right that often people do have to interview to remain employed (and thus to receive these benefits).

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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Why?

Because right now price is about the only criteria really considered today. You can stifle innovation and competition as long as the prices stay low.

Are you lacking in competition in any market that Apple (per the original article) competes in?

Re: Apple buys a company every three to four weeks

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post #22

So ~15 companies a year? That doesn't sound outrageous for a company with billions and billions of dollars in the bank, and billions more coming in every quarter. edit: If anything there's probably immense pressure on Cook to buy buy buy more stuff. I don't think anyone inside Apple wants to have a repeat of stuff like old Apple maps or other products that just languished and died internally while external companies…

The issue is not the money - it's the ability to integrate. M&A and cooltech is by far the easiest part. Making use of the tech, the talent, operational integration, re-writes vs. integration, product alignment, etc. it's very hard on every level. What do you do with the VP of a 50 person company, now they are managers in a little team, the software might be discarded, or just a few ideas used from it etc. etc..

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