Earlier quoted context omitted.
Supposedly there are no reboots. No idea how they're managing that.
Maybe something Ksplice like? http://www.ksplice.com/
Maybe something like this IS in the kernel right now.
Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29
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#42dsplittgerber seems to have a valid point, though one that is understood by anyone who has followed Apple for long. Still, unsure why the comment is [dead].
http://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=2625727
To respond, Apple has never had a problem re-implementing a 3rd party app and integrating it into the system, Dashboard is a classic example of this. It's a bit hostile towards 3rd party developers, but generally good for users (at least that's the argument).
Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29
#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my case that is a Snow Leopard disk (my MBP came with Leopard). So I have to install Snow Leopard, download and update to 10.6.7(?), and then download Lion? That's a pretty horrible user experience.
Devils advocate, is it much more of a step then downloading all the other software updates that have been released since you acquired your disc?
It is an ugly step when you have to go through 3 or 4 updates in row that require reboots.
Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29
#44Hmm... so what happens if my hard drive crashes and I replace it myself?
Restore the Lion DMG to a USB drive using Disk Utility.
Edit: I think App Store will download the DMG to a known location so people can create backups.
Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29
#45I wonder how much of a wrench in the works that will be for Hackintosh people.
If you install a valid registered copy of the OS on the hardware, I imagine none. For the people that obtain the OS through not so legal means, then I imagine they'll still be able to get around it as most application on the appstore are obtainable through other means.
technically none of the copies of Mac OS X running on Hackintoshes are "valid" -- Apple's Leopard/Snow Leopard boxes are technically upgrades only, not full installs, even though they work perfectly fine as full installs.
Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29
#46Not sure why below comment is dead. The account seems ok and not hell banned. Was it flagged to death? If so, anyone who flagged it,why?
dsplittgerber 24 minutes ago | link [dead]
Anyone else surprised by how many hugely popular apps Apple is going to kill with new Lion/iOS? Instapaper built-into Safari now, all kinds of messanger apps killed by iMessage, some of those photo apps going down the drain as well, Reminders app is a huge one as well. All targeting really popular app categories.
Sure, some people care about thing X being done supremely well and will still pay for some apps. But the huge majority will probably be really fine with Apples version.
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#47Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29
#48Earlier quoted context omitted.
In my case that is a Snow Leopard disk (my MBP came with Leopard). So I have to install Snow Leopard, download and update to 10.6.7(?), and then download Lion? That's a pretty horrible user experience.
Pretty horrible experience for a tiny minority and a great experience for the majority. Sounds like Apple. I'm sure Macs without floppy drives were a terrible experience for people that relied on floppies.
>Pretty horrible experience for a tiny minority and a great experience for the majority. Sounds like Apple.
How will having a shipped disk as an option ruin the experience of the majority? You analogy is flawed because floppy drives take up space and cost.
Re: Mac OS X Lion: Coming In July For $29
#49It will be interesting to see how the OS installs over itself now that it is being distributed through the app store. I wonder if they will create a new partition with the installer and reboot into it.
According to [1], Phil Schiller said "no reboots". Any idea how that is accomplished, or was it a misstatement? [1] http://www.engadget.com/2011/06/06/wwdc-2011-liveblog-steve-... , Ctrl+F for "reboots"
They probably mean no additional reboots; in many OSes first you boot the installer/upgrader, then you install, then you boot the installed OS.