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Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by function_seven » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 12:40 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #86

function_seven wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just laughed when I saw your comment, and the bugzilla links are styled as "visted" (i.e. gray instead of black.) I hate that behavior. When I click in the address bar, it's because I want to edit the URL. If I want to go somewhere else, I'll open a new tab, or use a bookmark, or click a link on a page. In the rare case that I want to type a whole new URL, but keep the same tab, I can easily triple-click or [Cmd]+A…

Their behaviour makes Firefox match other browsers - Firefox doesn't need to be different for the sake of it.

Yeah, and that's cool. I get being consistent with other browsers. I also miss being able to invert the choice with an about:config toggle.

I also know that I'm in the minority, and that maybe the size of my cohort is too small to add yet another thing to check during regression testing.

But I'm still mad about it :) Firefox always seemed like the browser for people who want to configure weird things, or extend it in all sorts of crazy ways. More and more it's becoming a me-too browser, and the only reason I'm sticking with it is out of a sense of duty to fight a Chrome monoculture.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by croes » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 12:40 AM UTC

varispeed wrote: post #82

function_seven wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just laughed when I saw your comment, and the bugzilla links are styled as "visted" (i.e. gray instead of black.) I hate that behavior. When I click in the address bar, it's because I want to edit the URL. If I want to go somewhere else, I'll open a new tab, or use a bookmark, or click a link on a page. In the rare case that I want to type a whole new URL, but keep the same tab, I can easily triple-click or [Cmd]+A…

This is pretty much why I don't use Firefox. Things like this are a deal breaker for me. I really wanted to use that browser, so I even tried at some point fix it myself.

So which browser do you use, because Chrome has the same behavior?

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by A12-B » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 12:41 AM UTC

gdrift wrote: post #45

One of the most voted for issues is closed WONTFIX: single click selects all in address bar and search box. I use Firefox exclusively and this is the single most annoying change they made for no apparent reason. So annoying. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621570 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?votes=133

This is how it works in all browsers and is useful because more people on average will click the url to remove all the text so they can type something new

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by dillondoyle » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 12:43 AM UTC

gdrift wrote: post #45

One of the most voted for issues is closed WONTFIX: single click selects all in address bar and search box. I use Firefox exclusively and this is the single most annoying change they made for no apparent reason. So annoying. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621570 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?votes=133

UGH the recent Chrome update also adds on top of this if you select then hit left arrow it doesn't even go to start it starts after https:// soooo annoying

I don't remember it doing that before but maybe i have a bad memory

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by teruakohatu » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 12:44 AM UTC

lambda_obrien wrote: post #80

function_seven wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just laughed when I saw your comment, and the bugzilla links are styled as "visted" (i.e. gray instead of black.) I hate that behavior. When I click in the address bar, it's because I want to edit the URL. If I want to go somewhere else, I'll open a new tab, or use a bookmark, or click a link on a page. In the rare case that I want to type a whole new URL, but keep the same tab, I can easily triple-click or [Cmd]+A…

Sounds like it should be user configurable, because I agree with you that selecting the whole thing by default is annoying.

Unfortunately user-configurability seems to be a out of fashion these days.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by edoceo » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 12:44 AM UTC

wongarsu wrote: post #51

raymondgh wrote: post #24

It’s also interesting that the context of this bug has changed over the years. I’d be surprised to learn if we had gigantic single-page api reference docs 17 years ago

On the other hand the tutorials I remember following back in the days were quite long and all in one page, while today those tend to be split into annoyingly many pages.

For more ad serves. F the modern web.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by ornxka » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 12:44 AM UTC

chrisseaton wrote: post #86

function_seven wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just laughed when I saw your comment, and the bugzilla links are styled as "visted" (i.e. gray instead of black.) I hate that behavior. When I click in the address bar, it's because I want to edit the URL. If I want to go somewhere else, I'll open a new tab, or use a bookmark, or click a link on a page. In the rare case that I want to type a whole new URL, but keep the same tab, I can easily triple-click or [Cmd]+A…

Their behaviour makes Firefox match other browsers - Firefox doesn't need to be different for the sake of it.

Their behavior makes Firefox unlike literally every single other program with a text box, except the singular other browser people actually use. Neither browser should be different for the sake of it.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by chrisseaton » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 12:45 AM UTC

function_seven wrote: post #91

chrisseaton wrote: post #86

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their behaviour makes Firefox match other browsers - Firefox doesn't need to be different for the sake of it.

Yeah, and that's cool. I get being consistent with other browsers. I also miss being able to invert the choice with an about:config toggle. I also know that I'm in the minority, and that maybe the size of my cohort is too small to add yet another thing to check during regression testing. But I'm still mad about it :) Firefox always seemed like the browser for people who want to configure weird things, or extend it in…

Yeah they can't really win - do they try to keep happy a dwindling group who liked Firefox the way it was in the past, or simplify and streamline to innovate more quickly appeal to new users. It's probably impossible to do both. I'm firmly in the anti-customisation camp myself. They obviously aren't ever going to appeal to both of us.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by teknopaul » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 12:45 AM UTC

Spivak wrote: post #49

gdrift wrote: post #45

One of the most voted for issues is closed WONTFIX: single click selects all in address bar and search box. I use Firefox exclusively and this is the single most annoying change they made for no apparent reason. So annoying. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1621570 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?votes=133

Even if you disagree with the reason might as well give the devs’ stance on it. > it [single clicking not selecting all] was a special behavior only implemented for Linux, it was not consistent with Firefox on other OSes, and with other browsers on Linux itself. The prefs were causing broken edge cases complicate to handle, taking into account all the possible pref combinations (for example under certain combinations…

Wontfixzilla with comments disabled is a clear statement. Is a wontfix with lots of comments more expensive, than a wontfix with comments blocked?

Shame you cant "give the devs opinion" on bugzilla.

Re: 17 year old Firefox feature request fixed

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Post by penteract » Thu, Feb 25, 2021, 12:46 AM UTC

kovac wrote: post #67

function_seven wrote: post #56

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I just laughed when I saw your comment, and the bugzilla links are styled as "visted" (i.e. gray instead of black.) I hate that behavior. When I click in the address bar, it's because I want to edit the URL. If I want to go somewhere else, I'll open a new tab, or use a bookmark, or click a link on a page. In the rare case that I want to type a whole new URL, but keep the same tab, I can easily triple-click or [Cmd]+A…

That's interesting. In my case, I hardly edit urls manually in the address bar. Usually I end up on a site either by clicking on links or copying and pasting a whole url from elsewhere. So, when I click on the address bar it's almost always to copy that url. Exception may be if you are front end dev testing different paths on the browser in which case editing in the address bar could be common.

But the automatic single-click selection doesn't fill the X clipboard (meaning it isn't pasted by middle click), so when I want to copy it I have to triple click anyway. Since it looks like it's selected, I frequently forget to do so, which results in pasting something I didn't mean to.