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Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Post by hypertele-Xii »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #66
matheusmoreira wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have nothing against straight ads. Why? It's almost always noise nobody wants to see. Advertising hurts usability by definition. Putting ads in the address bar of all places is actually hostile to users: people who are used to finding bookmarks that way will end up opening sponsored links instead due to muscle memory.

But it's also Firefox, just go into about:config and turn it off if you don't like it and presto?

Yeah until the pref just stops working one day.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Post by hypertele-Xii »

Vrondi wrote: post #54
cassepipe wrote: post #36

I was wondering : What is the purpose of picture in picture? I don't have any use case for it and was curious about who does.

It is rare, but sometimes a video embedded in a web page has no option to make it full screen. I can click the PIP button in Firefox, then I can double-click it to make it full screen. Nice workaround for those moments.

Maybe they should just add that option for all videos.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Post by eganist »

TheRealPomax wrote: post #68
foofoo4u wrote: post #20

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I make monthly donations to Mozilla to support their cause. I will stop my donations and migrate to a different browser if they continue down this path.

You realise how weird this sounds, right? Presumably you donate because you care about the Mozilla mission, and those ads are there because donations alone aren't enough, and relying purely on Google's money is also not a great strategy. What do you want them to do, invent money out of thin air? And it's still Firefox: if you're upset enough to consider "migration to a different browser", why not instead get upset en…

> You realise how weird this sounds, right? Presumably you donate because you care about the Mozilla mission, and those ads are there because donations alone aren't enough, and relying purely on Google's money is also not a great strategy. What do you want them to do, invent money out of thin air?

If Facebook made 32.03 per user last year, I think it's fair to say that Mozilla will probably do even better if they offer an ad-free subscription option for e.g. 36/y across their entire suite of services.

It's not weird to expect Mozilla to do their best to try and remain solvent.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Post by peteretep »

StavrosK wrote: post #51
noizejoy wrote: post #14

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Unfortunately the top of that thread is now pretty much about another project/topic

There's a "[-]" button you can click to collapse threads you don't want to read.

Somehow I’ve missed this feature over the last ten years ... so, thanks!

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Post by matheusmoreira »

curiousgal wrote: post #65
matheusmoreira wrote: post #63

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> I have nothing against straight ads. Why? It's almost always noise nobody wants to see. Advertising hurts usability by definition. Putting ads in the address bar of all places is actually hostile to users: people who are used to finding bookmarks that way will end up opening sponsored links instead due to muscle memory.

Why not? The bills have to be paid. Wouldn't you rather they monetize their product in a responsible way than join the others? We live in the real world after all.

The responsible way to monetize something is to charge for it. Advertising makes it normal to have "free" products and people become slaves to it. Can't say or do anything they don't like lest they kill your income.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Post by StavrosK »

peteretep wrote: post #74
StavrosK wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There's a "[-]" button you can click to collapse threads you don't want to read.

Somehow I’ve missed this feature over the last ten years ... so, thanks!

You're welcome!

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Post by sellyme »

gcthomas wrote: post #30
foofoo4u wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I make monthly donations to Mozilla to support their cause. I will stop my donations and migrate to a different browser if they continue down this path.

We get the browser for free and these are just ads, not trackers - they are not stealing our data like Chrome, FB, and the rest. I have nothing against straight ads.

> I have nothing against straight ads.

I do. They are actively hostile to the user experience. I will criticise any update to software that deliberately makes the user experience worse.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Post by agumonkey »

arprocter wrote: post #21
agumonkey wrote: post #11

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For some odd reason I don't get the PiP icon on the firefox demo video. It works well on different youtube videos though :)

By default the button only shows on videos over 45 secs long You can change the default in about:config media.videocontrols.picture-in-picture.video-toggle.min-video-secs

Many thanks :)

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Post by notyourwork »

corobo wrote: post #17

And ads in the address bar search results. https://twitter.com/CohanRobinson/status/1364172683118866433 E: saved you a click on my own link. In about:config you can disable this by setting the following to false browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsored browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsoredTopSites

Why is the default enabled? Defaults are supposed to be sane and this is anything but sane or desired.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Post by symlinkk »

sellyme wrote: post #77
gcthomas wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We get the browser for free and these are just ads, not trackers - they are not stealing our data like Chrome, FB, and the rest. I have nothing against straight ads.

> I have nothing against straight ads. I do. They are actively hostile to the user experience. I will criticise any update to software that deliberately makes the user experience worse.

Ok, well suggest a different way they can make money then. No, donations are not cutting it.
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