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Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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You can disable it. It isn't actually ads, it's sponsored link and the sponsor isn't tracking you (at least not until you click..) browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsored browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsoredTopSites

Thats called an ad. Mozilla is receiving money to show me something, thats what ad agencies do.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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Zoom calls in Firefox -- a lot of people don't download the software but just run it in browser.

Does it run hotter than in other browsers? It seems likely that it's Zoom's problem.

It's all streaming. Twitch, YouTube.

Running any of those on Firefox, vs. other browsers, is a lot hotter.

I did a post about it and according to Apple's "Energy Usage" Firefox was like 50x higher than Safari and 30x higher than Chrome on the same sort of streaming call.

Try it for yourself next time you're on a Zoom call.

Firefox is my browser of choice, but so annoying that they don't take battery use / optimization seriously.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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I make monthly donations to Mozilla to support their cause. I will stop my donations and migrate to a different browser if they continue down this path.

We get the browser for free and these are just ads, not trackers - they are not stealing our data like Chrome, FB, and the rest. I have nothing against straight ads.

> I have nothing against straight ads.

Why? It's almost always noise nobody wants to see. Advertising hurts usability by definition. Putting ads in the address bar of all places is actually hostile to users: people who are used to finding bookmarks that way will end up opening sponsored links instead due to muscle memory.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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I make monthly donations to Mozilla to support their cause. I will stop my donations and migrate to a different browser if they continue down this path.

We get the browser for free and these are just ads, not trackers - they are not stealing our data like Chrome, FB, and the rest. I have nothing against straight ads.

Personally my concern is more fundamental than that.

If mozilla is moving towards expanding advertising in FF from the developer, then they're changing their incentive structure in a way that makes putting ads in front of my eyes against my wishes more and more beneficial to them.

I can't see this as a good step forward. It only leads to places where they're incentivized to make the browser worse to make more money.

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We get the browser for free and these are just ads, not trackers - they are not stealing our data like Chrome, FB, and the rest. I have nothing against straight ads.

> I have nothing against straight ads. Why? It's almost always noise nobody wants to see. Advertising hurts usability by definition. Putting ads in the address bar of all places is actually hostile to users: people who are used to finding bookmarks that way will end up opening sponsored links instead due to muscle memory.

Why not? The bills have to be paid. Wouldn't you rather they monetize their product in a responsible way than join the others? We live in the real world after all.

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We get the browser for free and these are just ads, not trackers - they are not stealing our data like Chrome, FB, and the rest. I have nothing against straight ads.

> I have nothing against straight ads. Why? It's almost always noise nobody wants to see. Advertising hurts usability by definition. Putting ads in the address bar of all places is actually hostile to users: people who are used to finding bookmarks that way will end up opening sponsored links instead due to muscle memory.

But it's also Firefox, just go into about:config and turn it off if you don't like it and presto?

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I can't reproduce that. How do I reproduce that?

Apparently it's an A/B test thing. I was a lucky winner. All I did was update (Ubuntu 20.04.2 LTS) To confirm I disabled all plugins immediately to ensure it was bog standard Firefox (which is why I was so irritated at the time, proper threw off my day). Bonus it had the Amazon tracking code "admpdesktopuk-21", which if you do a search reveals a bunch of plugins that went rogue. E: apologies I can't track down the so…

Can confirm I get this in Firefox on Fedora 33.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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And ads in the address bar search results. https://twitter.com/CohanRobinson/status/1364172683118866433 E: saved you a click on my own link. In about:config you can disable this by setting the following to false browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsored browser.newtabpage.activity-stream.showSponsoredTopSites

I make monthly donations to Mozilla to support their cause. I will stop my donations and migrate to a different browser if they continue down this path.

You realise how weird this sounds, right? Presumably you donate because you care about the Mozilla mission, and those ads are there because donations alone aren't enough, and relying purely on Google's money is also not a great strategy. What do you want them to do, invent money out of thin air?

And it's still Firefox: if you're upset enough to consider "migration to a different browser", why not instead get upset enough to just look up the pref that turns them off? Because that's the whole point of Firefox: you're still in control of your browser, and almost everything is yours to set to your liking, even if it's not in the normal options UI. Don't want those ads? Hit up about:config, turn them off, problem solved?

And in the mean time, Mozilla still needs your help, because breaking today's Chrome dominance by offering a better product (not just a competing one. People don't switch if the offering is more of the same) is orders of magnitudes more difficult than when they broke IE's dominance many decades ago.

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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I was wondering : What is the purpose of picture in picture? I don't have any use case for it and was curious about who does.

I've used it to put video from web based video chat on top of a full screen video, while still keeping focus on the main video. I mainly browse with a whole bunch of tabs open instead of multiple windows, so it's useful to pull a video out of a page and be able to navigate away and continue watching instead of dragging to a new window which would take up more space and get lost more easily. I've also used it for chec…

Hmm I couldn't get it to work with video chat so I should try again

Re: Firefox Release Includes Total Cookie Protection and Multiple Picture-in-Picture

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> I have nothing against straight ads. Why? It's almost always noise nobody wants to see. Advertising hurts usability by definition. Putting ads in the address bar of all places is actually hostile to users: people who are used to finding bookmarks that way will end up opening sponsored links instead due to muscle memory.

But it's also Firefox, just go into about:config and turn it off if you don't like it and presto?

It's great to have an out. But are those synchronized? Because I find the increasing number of tweaks difficult to remember. Tyranny of the default is real.
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