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> Tursun said she was forcibly sterilized in 2019 through a surgical procedure, along with hundreds of other Uighur women.
(2019) "Kalbinur Tursun, 36, entrusted five of her children to relatives when she left Xinjiang to give birth in Istanbul but has been unable to contact them for several years" - https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/28/world/asia/china-xinjiang...
But happy for a logical explanation, since we are talking genocide after all.
Ok... I'll play devil's advocate here: genocide (quoting Wikipedia) "is the intentional action to destroy a people—usually defined as an ethnic, national, racial, or religious group—in whole or in part" - meaning physically killing them. What China is doing (forced reeducation, mass surveillance etc.) is of course worthy of condemnation, but calling it "genocide" goes too far in my opinion, and diminishes the real ge…
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It's pretty straightforward; from 2012-2015 the previous government, led by Stephen Harper (Prime Minister), and in partnership with Erin O'Toole (at the time Parliamentary Secretary with oversight over International Trade) negotiated a trade agreement with China [1]. Under this treaty, if the Canadian government takes actions that damage or undermine Chinese investment in Canada, then Chinese companies can sue Canad…
That still doesn't explain why Liberal MPs voted for the resolution. Presumably Trudeau could have prevented them from voting, or forced abstention.
Also, back-bench MPs speak on behalf of their constituencies more than on behalf of the government.
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Article 28 also states: > Any Tribunal award under this Part shall be publicly available, subject to the redaction of confidential information. > To the extent necessary to ensure the protection of confidential information, including business confidential information, the Tribunal may hold portions of hearings in camera. > To the extent that a Tribunal’s confidentiality order designates information as confidential an…
Have you never seen regular court documents that are redacted or even sealed to protect confidential information? That clause is basically saying the tribunal has the power to do that.
IE:
https://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/commons-law-clerk-we-charit...
They're using "genocide" in the same sense of the word as people who allege "white genocide", i.e., to mean that policies are reducing fertility of a certain demographic. Specifically, they allege: > the use of arbitrary detention, political re-education, forced labour, torture and forced sterilization The traditional, dictionary definition of genocide is "the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a par…
They are using genocide as a generally accepted legal term, and not a dictionary definition, or an interpretation of the root words that make up the word. Read the definition of genocide as it pertains to international law by reviewing the UN page on the topic[1].
There is a specific meaning, and it relates to the intention of destroying the Uigher people as a cultural identity through a campaign of imprisonment, physical harm, forced sterilization and family separations. Each of those are detailed in well respected publications around the world, and links to the articles backing that can be found by reviewing the citations on the Wikipedia article on the Uigher Genocide[2].
[1]https://www.un.org/en/genocideprevention/genocide.shtml [2]https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uyghur_genocide
Meanwhile at home, Canada tortures people. [1] [1] https://www.vice.com/en/article/93wj78/canada-is-torturing-i...
I am not sure what point you are trying to make?
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>The Chinese government is targetting the Uigher people and their supporters with the intention of destroying the Uigher cultural identity. This is begging the question -- what are those things that reveal the intent to eradicate? We both agree that Uighur's are being specifically targeted, of course, but the Wikipedia article is weaseling in the "cultural" qualifier, i.e. "cultural genocidie". That's a comparison to…
You are overlooking the policies of child separation and forced sterilization. Read the sources in the article I linked to.
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That still doesn't explain why Liberal MPs voted for the resolution. Presumably Trudeau could have prevented them from voting, or forced abstention.
How would be prevent them from voting or force them to abstain? He doesn't have the power to do that. Also, back-bench MPs speak on behalf of their constituencies more than on behalf of the government.
He's the party leader. He can force his will.
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That still doesn't explain why Liberal MPs voted for the resolution. Presumably Trudeau could have prevented them from voting, or forced abstention.
How would be prevent them from voting or force them to abstain? He doesn't have the power to do that. Also, back-bench MPs speak on behalf of their constituencies more than on behalf of the government.
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How would be prevent them from voting or force them to abstain? He doesn't have the power to do that. Also, back-bench MPs speak on behalf of their constituencies more than on behalf of the government.
>He doesn't have the power to do that. He's the party leader. He can force his will.