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Coca-Cola says 'Be Less White' learning plan was about workplace inclusion

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Re: Coca-Cola says 'Be Less White' learning plan was about workplace inclusion

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Is this the same Robin DiAngelo that wrote White Fragility ? https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Fragility

The response to the videos certainly seems like it is that same fragility in action.

This is a perfect example of a kafkatrap.

If someone tries to defend themselves against accusations of fragility then it is used as evidence of fragility.

It's a very transparent bullying tactic.

Re: Coca-Cola says 'Be Less White' learning plan was about workplace inclusion

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Don't try to justify racism. The slides literally told employees to "be less white".

If that instruction was contextually intended to support non-white employees who felt like they had to "play white" in order to succeed, I think the advice is generally good ("be yourself"). If that was contextually directed primarily towards white employees, it's offensive and inherently racist. I didn't (and now can't) see the context, but context matters. "White before black" is offensive/racist in many contexts,…

Funny how people are jumping out of the woodwork to defend racism. There's literally no context where attributing qualities to people based on their skin color is OK.

When did we go back to the 1950s? I sure hope you don't feel comfortable being this racist in real life.

Re: Coca-Cola says 'Be Less White' learning plan was about workplace inclusion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Don't try to justify racism. The slides literally told employees to "be less white".

If that instruction was contextually intended to support non-white employees who felt like they had to "play white" in order to succeed, I think the advice is generally good ("be yourself"). If that was contextually directed primarily towards white employees, it's offensive and inherently racist. I didn't (and now can't) see the context, but context matters. "White before black" is offensive/racist in many contexts,…

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Re: Coca-Cola says 'Be Less White' learning plan was about workplace inclusion

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The quote in the title of the article is really an inappropriate way to try to describe inclusiveness. It’s not about being less, it’s about including others more.

Insulting and demeaning racial groups is the opposite of inclusion. It breeds resentment and hatred. For a time there was a focus on treating people as human and not as [racial/sex/religion]

Trend these days is to encourage openly being a bigot, just as long as it’s against certain people.

Replace the word white with any other social group and perhaps you’ll see the problem.

Re: Coca-Cola says 'Be Less White' learning plan was about workplace inclusion

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Keep in mind the racist content wasn’t from Coca Cola (as the headline implies) but rather a LinkedIn Learning contributor based on the work of Robin DiAngelo. All material based on Robin DiAngelo’s work has since been removed from LinkedIn learning: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Eu4u1VUWgAENWKd?format=jpg

> DiAngelo received her Ph.D. in multicultural education from the University of Washington in 2004

Honest question after reading her wikipedia page. Is this all that is required to spend 20 years teaching everyone how race relations should work?

It seems like a bit of arrogance combined with some sort of grift.

This is obviously a minefield to debate online so I'll just leave it at that.

Re: Coca-Cola says 'Be Less White' learning plan was about workplace inclusion

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

If that instruction was contextually intended to support non-white employees who felt like they had to "play white" in order to succeed, I think the advice is generally good ("be yourself"). If that was contextually directed primarily towards white employees, it's offensive and inherently racist. I didn't (and now can't) see the context, but context matters. "White before black" is offensive/racist in many contexts,…

Can you even imagine what the fallout would be if they started telling employees to "be less black"?

Exactly. If the video was about inventory shrinkage and was titled "Be Less Black" they would have (rightfully so) been sued out of existence.

Racists exists in every human group, and they're predominately non-white outside the West. e.g Groups like Boku Haram are anti-White racists in Africa.

Re: Coca-Cola says 'Be Less White' learning plan was about workplace inclusion

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Don't try to justify racism. The slides literally told employees to "be less white".

If that instruction was contextually intended to support non-white employees who felt like they had to "play white" in order to succeed, I think the advice is generally good ("be yourself"). If that was contextually directed primarily towards white employees, it's offensive and inherently racist. I didn't (and now can't) see the context, but context matters. "White before black" is offensive/racist in many contexts,…

> If that was contextually directed primarily towards white employees, it's offensive and inherently racist.

Yes, and you can confirm it yourself:

https://twitter.com/DrKarlynB/status/1362774562769879044?s=2...

Re: Coca-Cola says 'Be Less White' learning plan was about workplace inclusion

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post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The response to the videos certainly seems like it is that same fragility in action.

This is a perfect example of a kafkatrap. If someone tries to defend themselves against accusations of fragility then it is used as evidence of fragility. It's a very transparent bullying tactic.

https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Kafkatrap

Re: Coca-Cola says 'Be Less White' learning plan was about workplace inclusion

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It's worth noting that this sort of racially divisive workplace training has been made the subject of a recent executive order, banning it for all federal contractors. So this might be a good move from LinkedIn.

Didn't Biden reverse that?

Day 1. Executive order.

https://www.manhattan-institute.org/biden-has-embraced-criti...

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