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Re: LulzSec Exposed

#32

Post by mestudent »

nakkiel wrote: post #28
thyrsus wrote: post #5

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed; the trial, if any (Private Manning?), will be interesting for the evidence collection techniques.

Manning is a totally different story that doesn't even fall the same branch of law. Plus state security in the US is somewhat touchy I hear. They're kids, they're gonna be all-right.

It appears some of them aren't kids, and from what we have seen computer crime is taken seriously when it is done against the government or popular things (Sarah Palin's email password reset and leak got the guy 1 year).

Re: LulzSec Exposed

#33

Post by newobj »

I'm glad they were doing it for the lulz. Some day someone's going to be doing it, not for the lulz, and the price we'll have to pay for this kind of massive developer/it-sec incompetence will be extremely high. Hopefully this has served as a wake-up call to people who weren't already aware how low the fruit has been hanging.

Re: LulzSec Exposed

#34

Post by shareme »

mestudent wrote: post #32
nakkiel wrote: post #28

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Manning is a totally different story that doesn't even fall the same branch of law. Plus state security in the US is somewhat touchy I hear. They're kids, they're gonna be all-right.

It appears some of them aren't kids, and from what we have seen computer crime is taken seriously when it is done against the government or popular things (Sarah Palin's email password reset and leak got the guy 1 year).

Class A misdemeanor and in most states it actually punishment wise an actual felony..

Re: LulzSec Exposed

#35

Post by burke »

younata wrote: post #29
leon_ wrote: post #11

what am I reading? anyone care to translate that?

Sure! starts off with telling everyone to get off this network, ED IRC (it could be a server in their own network, but if that were the case their network would already be breached) calls for a new operation (similar to how anon has various operations). Then admits to hiring a botnet to help them. chimes in, talking about an irc server exploit is basically killing his computer. asks for an exploit, says he has it, bu…

ED almost certainly refers to http://encyclopediadramatica.ch/Get_On_IRC_Fgt (usually semi-NSFW)

Re: LulzSec Exposed

#38

Post by chrislomax »

newobj wrote: post #33

I'm glad they were doing it for the lulz. Some day someone's going to be doing it, not for the lulz, and the price we'll have to pay for this kind of massive developer/it-sec incompetence will be extremely high. Hopefully this has served as a wake-up call to people who weren't already aware how low the fruit has been hanging.

You say you are glad they were doing it for fun and wait for someone to do it not for fun? How do you know it's not already been done? A true hacker wouldn't expose their actions and would continue with the exploit.

I think these kids have exposed the true lack of security around the world in general and it has raised some serious attention for other people to take a look at their own defence, which is good in some respects.

What they have also successfully done is lowered peoples trust in massive corporations which in turn is going to hurt the economy globally, which is not good in any respect.

I think they should have hacked it then made the companies aware, not the whole world. It's hard enough getting someone to trust and pay for services from a company when they think they are safe, they really won't when there is no trust there at all.

Re: LulzSec Exposed

#39

Post by grimen »

Wow, I would def not consider myself a security expert but I seriosly have higher standards than this when it comes to security. Most obvious fails on this dude: 1) Windows, 2) Gmail (if i would be a hacker i would not use this for obvious reasons), 3) specifying any personal credentials in my "hacker" acount, 4) same username (...i would not use same user-id). I mean, c'mon...I had higher expectations on this guys really (considering I'm not into those kind of networks - call be hacker noob). Let's hope the other guys was more paranoid than this.

Btw, what will be the jail-sentence in US for this you think? Let's hope he's a minor - looks like a teenager.

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