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American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by therealdrag0 »

Judgmentality wrote: post #183
scotth wrote: post #180

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Surely things have changed between then and now. We're talking about visual phenomena, and we capture video constantly.

I'm a pilot (recreational, and my license is not current). Although I've never personally seen a UFO, I've heard enough stories to believe it (not implying alien but nobody seems to know what they are). I've never once recorded anything while flying, ever. And I don't know anybody who ever records while flying (I don't mean for long periods of time, I mean at all). Why would I ever think to do that? By the time I see…

>> Although I've never personally seen a UFO, I've heard enough stories to believe it.

Reminds me of growing up in fundamentalist religious communities where it was commonplace to hear of physical miracles. All sorts of people had stories of God healing people for example. And yet it never happened around me or on film, despite me spending over a thousand hours at religious services as the like.

Eventually I realized many people are just willing to believe things and succumb to simple cognitive biases.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by throwawayalien »

awb wrote: post #211
noetic_techy wrote: post #187

Why poo poo this? This is what really irks me when people laugh this stuff off and spout off something about Fermi's paradox without even understanding it. Fermi's paradox only asks simply "if statistics say they are everywhere, well then where are they?" What if the answer is simply: "Zooming all around us and we occasionally see one". Period. The rest is assumption. Fermi's paradox does NOT presuppose contact. That…

We know that the government kept the SR71 secret in the 50s and 60s and the stealth bomber secret in the 80s and 90s. There’s a great book called Skunk Works that details how massive military aviation advances were kept secret for decades. Now, we’re 60 years on from the Blackbird and 40 years on from the stealth bomber. We know the military has operated drones for decades and that Russia has hypersonic missiles. I f…

Reports and witnessing of UFOs are not something that started happening only in recent times. And by recent, I mean the last ~80 years (which is far longer than the 10-20 year window). You can find examples - stories and depictions of UFOs - throughout the history.

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Post by Judgmentality »

therealdrag0 wrote: post #241
Judgmentality wrote: post #183

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'm a pilot (recreational, and my license is not current). Although I've never personally seen a UFO, I've heard enough stories to believe it (not implying alien but nobody seems to know what they are). I've never once recorded anything while flying, ever. And I don't know anybody who ever records while flying (I don't mean for long periods of time, I mean at all). Why would I ever think to do that? By the time I see…

>> Although I've never personally seen a UFO, I've heard enough stories to believe it. Reminds me of growing up in fundamentalist religious communities where it was commonplace to hear of physical miracles. All sorts of people had stories of God healing people for example. And yet it never happened around me or on film, despite me spending over a thousand hours at religious services as the like. Eventually I realized…

But do you believe in evolution? :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgk8UdV7GQ0

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by xauronx »

barnaclejive wrote: post #169

Why is everyone arguing about stuff in this thread instead of focusing on the less-interesting but still super concerning fact that something flew "right over the top" of a commercial airplane? Even in the least-interesting case of it probably a US test thing of some kind - wtf is it doing flying in commercial airspace? Can you imagine if it had hit the plane?

Yeah, that’s my question. I’ll assume someone (whether the US government, Elon Musk, or whoever) was testing a rocket of some sort. Why the hell was it in the same area as a commercial flight? I’ll add another stupid human error to my list of things to be afraid of while on a plane.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by xauronx »

thomasjudge wrote: post #144

Aren't there other possibilities besides military (domestic or foreign)or alien? What about a civilian/hobbyist drone? Wasn't there a to-my-knowledge-unexplained "drone swarm" in Colorado recently?

I was thinking some startup was a possibility. There’s obviously a ton of money to be made by making something go really fast. “Tesla sky teleport can get you from LA to Portland in 40 minutes.” Just sit in this cylinder as we launch you in your personal ballistic missile.

We saw a lot of recklessness with self driving vehicles. I wouldn’t be surprised to see a similar attitude while developing tech like this.

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Post by artifact_44 »

oceanplexian wrote: post #123

I won’t be able to provide information that other people haven’t already but I have encountered one of these “aircraft”. I own a small light sport airplane and was flying between UT and CA at 12.5k ft and saw one of these pass 1,000ft below me not far outside of Reno. ATC didn’t call it so presumably they didn’t see it on radar. It was exactly as described, small, shiny, cylindrical, no wings, and fast. If I could gu…

A cylinder like.. a cylinder with flat ends? No aerodynamic control surfaces? Was it metal? Was it rotating along an axis? Did it make a sound? Was it 1 foot, 10 feet or 100 feet long? Did it leave a vapor trail? Your story sounds like bullshit.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by Anthony-G »

nabla9 wrote: post #153
oceanplexian wrote: post #123

I won’t be able to provide information that other people haven’t already but I have encountered one of these “aircraft”. I own a small light sport airplane and was flying between UT and CA at 12.5k ft and saw one of these pass 1,000ft below me not far outside of Reno. ATC didn’t call it so presumably they didn’t see it on radar. It was exactly as described, small, shiny, cylindrical, no wings, and fast. If I could gu…

(a) They are common, lots of stories. (b) Completely impossible to get good video about them. a & b => bs

Reports of rare marine phenomenon such as rogue waves¹ were widely dismissed as “tall” (no pun intended) tales by sailors – and more recently – surfers. It wasn’t until the last few decades that photography and marine instruments provided empirical evidence for their existence.

I wouldn’t be too quick to dismiss anecdotal reports of simalarly rare and hard-to-capture aeronautical pheonmenon.

1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rogue_wave

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

joubert wrote: post #197
noetic_techy wrote: post #187

Why poo poo this? This is what really irks me when people laugh this stuff off and spout off something about Fermi's paradox without even understanding it. Fermi's paradox only asks simply "if statistics say they are everywhere, well then where are they?" What if the answer is simply: "Zooming all around us and we occasionally see one". Period. The rest is assumption. Fermi's paradox does NOT presuppose contact. That…

It sounds like you’re saying “the absence of evidence IS evidence of an advanced alien civilization (because they’d hide)”. Or do I misinterpret?

What's your opinion on existence of Planet nine?

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by GoblinSlayer »

AtlasBarfed wrote: post #208
noetic_techy wrote: post #187

Why poo poo this? This is what really irks me when people laugh this stuff off and spout off something about Fermi's paradox without even understanding it. Fermi's paradox only asks simply "if statistics say they are everywhere, well then where are they?" What if the answer is simply: "Zooming all around us and we occasionally see one". Period. The rest is assumption. Fermi's paradox does NOT presuppose contact. That…

If there are aliens, we are in deep shit. There are two poles: Either the aliens are extremely rapacious, or very enlightened. If they're rapacious, we are weak annoying ants to be crushed. If they're enlightened, a cursory examination of our history and treatment of the world would show that we are extremely rapacious, and need to be contained or destroyed. So no matter where on that continuum, we are either destroy…

>need to be contained

Yes? When was the last time you were on the Moon?

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