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American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by micksabox »

rococode wrote: post #62
geocrasher wrote: post #8

I think the proper term here is "Unidentified Flying Object" for a reason. The pilot clearly said it looked like a cruise missile. The notion that "Unidentified = Alien" is rather far fetched. The acronym should be more accurately called "Undisclosed Flying Object".

We've really gotta adopt a new term for this stuff. It's fine to be pedantic and say "well 'UFO' doesn't actually mean aliens in the first place", but the acronym has clearly been co-opted by pop culture to be closely tied with aliens for decades now. Even a minor change like "UFOB" (which has been used by the USAF officially) would probably make a big difference. People will continue to say UFO to mean aliens, and t…

Yes, the term now is UAP, unidentified aerial phenomenon. There is an official UAP Task Force in the Pentagon. Former Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid uses it, Hilary Clinton uses it.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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human wrote: post #78
mike_d wrote: post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

There is absolutely zero chance a cruise missile would be fired without closing the airspace to civilian aircraft. The pilot was at 37,000 feet and said the object was above them. Commercial planes top out at about 42k feet and would have shown up on ADS-B. A U-2 flying at 60k would look like a long cylindrical object about the size of a cruise missile (in the same way a 747 looks small from the ground), and not show…

Tell that to the people on the plane that was shot down above Ukrainian airspace.

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Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by mattr47 »

mike_d wrote: post #74
jandrese wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a huge mystery how an airline pilot could possibly see a cruise missile shaped object right outside of the White Sands Missile Range. Probably aliens.

There is absolutely zero chance a cruise missile would be fired without closing the airspace to civilian aircraft. The pilot was at 37,000 feet and said the object was above them. Commercial planes top out at about 42k feet and would have shown up on ADS-B. A U-2 flying at 60k would look like a long cylindrical object about the size of a cruise missile (in the same way a 747 looks small from the ground), and not show…

Cruise missiles are able to fly in controlled and uncontrolled airspace on Military Training Routes (MTR). There are procedures in place for a Notice to Airmen (NOTAM) to be requested and published that alerts other operators of the hazard to flight.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by ianai »

01100011 wrote: post #48
date227 wrote: post #31

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/30121/chinas-high-spee...

That's the first thing I thought of when I heard about this. If the US was testing its drones, I think it would prefer to keep them in a restricted airspace. On the other hand, if I were a foreign power looking to flaunt my new drone tech, I'd take it over the area that seems to be rife with sensitive bases. Still, it's most likely this is a US drone on a long range testing mission(or just flying off course due to a…

Are there reports of any foreign drones flying so far within US borders? I only recall media accounts of stuff like that happening in international waters or borders.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by Uehreka »

boomboomsubban wrote: post #68
rococode wrote: post #62

Earlier quoted context omitted.

We've really gotta adopt a new term for this stuff. It's fine to be pedantic and say "well 'UFO' doesn't actually mean aliens in the first place", but the acronym has clearly been co-opted by pop culture to be closely tied with aliens for decades now. Even a minor change like "UFOB" (which has been used by the USAF officially) would probably make a big difference. People will continue to say UFO to mean aliens, and t…

It's in American Airline's benefit to make this story get as big as possible, it's free advertising. They already know the term will be misunderstood, that is their goal.

I feel like this “all press is good press” argument gets deployed a lot as a sort of thought-terminating cliche. I don’t think it’s obvious that AA necessarily benefits from a story that does involve them but could also potentially make some people more afraid of flying.

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Post by scrose »

salawat wrote: post #34
Ralfp wrote: post #13

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Tracking cameras on civilian passenger plane seems like a whole lot extra stuff for operator to maintain and service compared to the benefit of capturing an UFO pictures once every few months.

Because that would make a civillian passenger transport indistinguishable from a recon asset. You know what happens to recon assets that frequent hostile airspace, don't you? There are legitimate reasons to not build functionality into something.

I think this is a bit of a stretch. I’ve been on a few transatlantic flights that had live camera feeds under the plane that you could tune into as a regular station on the tv. I’d wager they’re more common on commercial flights than you think.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by ianai »

TacticalCoder wrote: post #89
themodelplumber wrote: post #43

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At 37K feet, above the airplane, tracking really fast moving objects, in the direction the cockpit is facing, we are expecting a phone or a dash cam? C'mon

Why isn't everything that the pilot can be seen recorded in some black box? If the pilot can see it, certainly a cam from inside the cockpit can see it. I understand that planes aren't cars but... We have cars doing just that: recording absolutely everything in case something unexpected happen. It's 2021: I'm sure airliners could have it at some point. It doesn't look like a feature too much out of a science-fiction…

I wonder whether camera feeds are included in the black box? This feels more like a tech progression being overlooked in tech upgrades.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by micksabox »

earthtourist wrote: post #41

Besides the U.S. Navy videos, there's only one video (out of hundreds I've seen) that has me genuinely wondering if it might be real evidence of an advanced vehicle (aliens or not). It seems to match this American Airpline pilot's description in some ways. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-91Nobn2xk Anyone have any guesses? Best guess I've seen was that it was a supply canister or drop tank. But it seems to pause in…

Looks like the tic-tac, similar to what Cmdr David Fravor saw off the coast of San Diego in 2004. The well known USS Nimitz incident.
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