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American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by ceejayoz »

themodelplumber wrote: post #50
jandrese wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a huge mystery how an airline pilot could possibly see a cruise missile shaped object right outside of the White Sands Missile Range. Probably aliens.

Are there cruise missiles that operate at those altitudes? Seems like "sitting duck" height for a cruise missile.

Altitude fits the mission.

If you're throwing Tomahawks at the Taliban, you'll get longer range from a higher altitude approach, with little risk of being detected let alone shot down.

If you're trying to hit Moscow, by all means, try to avoid radar by going 50 feet off the ground.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by rococode »

geocrasher wrote: post #8

I think the proper term here is "Unidentified Flying Object" for a reason. The pilot clearly said it looked like a cruise missile. The notion that "Unidentified = Alien" is rather far fetched. The acronym should be more accurately called "Undisclosed Flying Object".

We've really gotta adopt a new term for this stuff. It's fine to be pedantic and say "well 'UFO' doesn't actually mean aliens in the first place", but the acronym has clearly been co-opted by pop culture to be closely tied with aliens for decades now. Even a minor change like "UFOB" (which has been used by the USAF officially) would probably make a big difference. People will continue to say UFO to mean aliens, and that's fine, but official press releases can use a different term so that people don't read the headlines and immediately think "wow, aliens!".

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by mwerd »

jandrese wrote: post #21
geocrasher wrote: post #8

I think the proper term here is "Unidentified Flying Object" for a reason. The pilot clearly said it looked like a cruise missile. The notion that "Unidentified = Alien" is rather far fetched. The acronym should be more accurately called "Undisclosed Flying Object".

It's a huge mystery how an airline pilot could possibly see a cruise missile shaped object right outside of the White Sands Missile Range. Probably aliens.

It was over 300 of miles from the white sands missile range. The plane had just flown over the western edge of Oklahoma, in the far northeast corner of new Mexico. It was closer to the air force academy in Colorado Springs than it was to white sands.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by tempestn »

jand wrote: post #42
tyrust wrote: post #30

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did you mean to reply to another comment? The article doesn't make any mention of "alien".

> Former CIA Director John Brennan thinks there may be life on other planets too. Found this in the article. This is close enough to "aliens!" if added to an article about airline incidents.

Indeed. Also, there's a world of difference between "there may be life on other planets", and "intelligent life from other planets is visiting earth".

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by themodelplumber »

vulcan01 wrote: post #24
low_common wrote: post #19

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What is your conclusion here/what are you saying. Are you claiming this could be extraterrestrial?

Not the OP, but sometimes I wonder whether some of these events are effects of testing by foreign militaries, and the DoD wants to hide knowledge of foreign military technology (because maybe they're trying to copy it).

Interesting but it raises some questions that get really weird fast:

A) The contents of these experiences tend to swing toward "random and subjective, but in a funny, objective way" which would eventually, logically lead to the conclusion that e.g. mind control is directly available and usable--so why not use it like a government would?

B) Which experiences fall within this scope? Which do not? How could you start to identify them and develop an idea as to purpose?

And C) in the event of any disclosure from moles or leaks inside _any_ military that's involved, I would expect it to hit the fan very fast, on any side you can name.

The details are going to be key, and there are way too many hand-wave explanations that involve broad gestures toward "government stuff".

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by themodelplumber »

shawnz wrote: post #54
themodelplumber wrote: post #43

Earlier quoted context omitted.

At 37K feet, above the airplane, tracking really fast moving objects, in the direction the cockpit is facing, we are expecting a phone or a dash cam? C'mon

Why not? Seems like it would be a simple and cheap forensic aid to put cameras covering the field of view of the pilots

Well, is op wondering why this can't be done in the future, or are they asking why it's not on video for us to watch right now? Those are two different questions, your answer addressing the former.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by boomboomsubban »

rococode wrote: post #62
geocrasher wrote: post #8

I think the proper term here is "Unidentified Flying Object" for a reason. The pilot clearly said it looked like a cruise missile. The notion that "Unidentified = Alien" is rather far fetched. The acronym should be more accurately called "Undisclosed Flying Object".

We've really gotta adopt a new term for this stuff. It's fine to be pedantic and say "well 'UFO' doesn't actually mean aliens in the first place", but the acronym has clearly been co-opted by pop culture to be closely tied with aliens for decades now. Even a minor change like "UFOB" (which has been used by the USAF officially) would probably make a big difference. People will continue to say UFO to mean aliens, and t…

It's in American Airline's benefit to make this story get as big as possible, it's free advertising. They already know the term will be misunderstood, that is their goal.

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by poisonarena »

lend000 wrote: post #56
jandrese wrote: post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It's a huge mystery how an airline pilot could possibly see a cruise missile shaped object right outside of the White Sands Missile Range. Probably aliens.

Because cruise missiles regularly do close unannounced fly-by's of passenger jets in civilian airspace /s.

this is not reddit

Re: American Airlines confirms UFO contact over New Mexico on Sunday

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Post by ttt0 »

astrea wrote: post #11

Aren't the recent explosion in UFO news and declassifications a little strange? Especially the ads Northrup Grumman is running talking about invisible aliens amongst us? Is this some sort of propaganda campaign? Distraction from something else? Enticing public support for the new space force to fluff some politician's pockets?

I haven't heard the term "conspiracy theory" thrown around too much with this recent UFO stuff, so you might have a point here. You'd think it would be a great propaganda tactic to harp on this and accuse one or the other side of being conspiracy theorists for talking about it, but I haven't seen that so far. It's definitely unusual.
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