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Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by buzzerbetrayed »

sep_field wrote: post #231
johnchristopher wrote: post #31

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I have stopped explaining people how my neighbor's friends honking when coming in and leaving drives me up the wall. There's the sound and then there's the rage from "that was fucking useless to do, you just spent 15 minutes saying goodbye on the doorstep, it 11PM, please be quiet" but I am the grumpy one. So I say nothing anymore. Fun thing is, when I am in the city, I like opening the windows in summer and car nois…

unfortunately in the US you can't go knock on the car's window because you are likely to be shot since there is no gun control.

> likely

I do not think that word means what you think it means. Please stop trolling HN. Your comments are filled with baseless claims such as this.

Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by jtsuken »

Hey, here is a startup idea.

I've been sitting on for a while and given my lack of engineering experience will probably never work on.

Problem:

Unnecessary/excessive noise from outdated/not properly maintained or purposefully broken devices (e.g. combustion engine powered leaf blowers, excessive and outdated reverse gear warning sounds on large vehicles, hollow motorbike ~mufflers~, garbage bins with metal wheels/lids)

Solution:

Create noise pollution maps, showing the areas with most frequent/most excessive noise pollution.

Noise data will exercise economical and political pressure putting an actual market price on the noise levels and requiring the governments to enforce noise limits on vehicles and other registered devices.

Approach 1:

Mobile apps capturing and mapping noise levels in a privacy friendly way, while providing useful diagnostics and recommendations for the users.

Approach 2:

Low power GPS-enabled devices distributed across the city contributing real-time noise data to a central database system for evaluation.

Re: Noise pollution hurts the heart

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Post by sep_field »

buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #241
sep_field wrote: post #231

Earlier quoted context omitted.

unfortunately in the US you can't go knock on the car's window because you are likely to be shot since there is no gun control.

> likely I do not think that word means what you think it means. Please stop trolling HN. Your comments are filled with baseless claims such as this.

your comment reads as . Can you make a more constructive statement?

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Post by bitcurious »

zemvpferreira wrote: post #204
bsd44 wrote: post #11

I used to live in a flat with a window onto the main road and I would violently wake up 4-6x every night and my heart rate would be through the roof. It's not easy to go back to sleep after that. I can get used to consistent noise and filter it out, but I can never get used to an extremely loud noise coming rapidly out of dead silence. Those were mostly custom exhausts, motorcycles and sirens. If I really needed slee…

I'm sorry you went through that awful situation but... was there anything stopping you from wearing earplugs? I religiously wear the best earplugs and face mask I can find to sleep. Even in controlled environments, they make a hell of a difference.

What are the best earplugs in your opinion?

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Post by Jakobeha »

AltruisticGapHN wrote: post #134

A reminder that noise cancel headphones are amazing. If you’re solo in the summer ypu can just watch tv with the headphones, the NC is really good a5 canceling the rumble from traffic, works great in trains too. Talking about a sony headphones above 300 eur though... but as someone healing trauma, it’s a life changer. Its not just less nouse, it gives you a bubble, an island of safety. You can get an hour of quiet be…

Personally I use ear plugs (silicone). If I want to listen to music or watch a movie I have AfterShokz bone-conducting headphones. You can get both for a bit over $100 and they work better than noise-cancelling headphones.

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Post by anigbrowl »

saiya-jin wrote: post #10
LinuxBender wrote: post #6

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Many most? cities do have noise ordinance laws that would prohibit choppers, but then cops have to decide if that want to take on that battle. Most bikers are super friendly. Some of them are not. One of the biker gangs in my area use a cocktail of drugs that make them fearless, angry, violent and it usually takes half a dozen cops to take down one of the bikers.

sounds like exactly the kind of work cops should be doing

You'd think that, but the effort does not always yield the expected results: https://www.npr.org/2019/04/03/709432311/texas-prosecutor-dr...

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Post by anigbrowl »

zapita wrote: post #38
nickt wrote: post #28

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That “loud pipes save lives is rubbish” [1]. Even if it were true the ROI on some training and awareness would be far higher. [1] https://www.quora.com/Do-loud-pipes-really-significantly-sav...

OK but individual motorcycle riders are not in a position to train and raise awareness in a way that makes them safe. So from the rider’s perspective, there is no good alternative.

When I used to ride all my problems with other motorists came from people approaching me from behind or to the side, not from me coming up behind people (perhaps because I was not in the habit of lane splitting at every opportunity). I suggest a horn serves the same function without annoying everyone nearby and eventually deafening the rider.

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Post by anigbrowl »

wmeredith wrote: post #170
tawayyyy wrote: post #168

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you have no idea. i can even sympathize with a murderer. you know, self-defense, impulse... can be anything. but this? this is premediated. just one asshat can ruin entire town. these people deserve lifetime-imprisonment after multiple offence.

> these people deserve lifetime-imprisonment after multiple offence. You can't be serious when you say that you'd lock someone in a cage for the rest of their life because they broke a noise ordinance.

Anyone could break a noise ordinance inadvertently, eg having a party that went on too long or getting carried away on a DIY project. while I'm not endorsing the life imprisonment proposal, deliberately altering your vehicle to make it loud and obnoxious (or plain noxious, as with 'coal roller' pickups that are modified to belch oily smoke in large quantities) is a calculated kind of sadism that exploits the inconvenience and low probability of enforcement to aggravate others to the greatest extent possible.

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Post by bostonvaulter2 »

0_____0 wrote: post #218
x3iv130f wrote: post #201

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It was a culture shock for me as a Californian to visit Tokyo. In my mind cities are dirty, loud, and dangerous. Tokyo despite being one of the densest and busiest cities in first world countries is incredibly clean, quiet, and safe.

Can you say a little bit more about this? What's the difference in how the cities are structured that makes this so?

I think partially they just care more. I remember when I visited Tokyo on a trip and would always see a decibel monitor on construction sites. I believe there was also a sign indicating the acceptable level of noise based on the time of day.

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Post by buzzerbetrayed »

sep_field wrote: post #243
buzzerbetrayed wrote: post #241

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> likely I do not think that word means what you think it means. Please stop trolling HN. Your comments are filled with baseless claims such as this.

your comment reads as . Can you make a more constructive statement?

Honestly I feel like my comment was pretty clear.

1. You are not "likely" to be shot, as that implies it is the probable thing to happen. This is clearly false. Go knock on 100 car windows and you most likely won't get shot once, let along 50 times.

2. You are trolling HN. You're intentionally making outlandish political claims that have no basis in reality (such as the one above), in order to "stir the pot".

edit: If anyone needs any more proof, just read their comment history. Earlier today they brought up how the "forced sterilization of conservatives" would solve some problem or another. Comment seems to be gone now. But their comment history is full of other obvious troll comments.

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