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Re: Free for Developers

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I have a Certificate in GIS and I know a little HTML and CSS and yadda, but I don't really write any programming languages. So I don't have a good sense of where they are drawing the line here for things that fit or don't fit this list.

Their section on Data Visualization on Maps lacks a link to Stamen Design free tiles, available under a creative commons license.

I'm wondering if people here think it's worth submitting a pull request or if that sounds like it is outside of the scope of what they are trying to curate for some reason.

https://free-for.dev/#/?id=data-visualization-on-maps

https://www.reddit.com/r/CitizenPlanners/comments/ezklaq/sta...

Re: Free for Developers

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Please point it out if I've missed it, but any list like this, of information that is changeable, should really have a publicly posted date of when the information was last confirmed.

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Re: Free for Developers

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I appreciate there's an uphill battle here to gain HN user trust. It is Oracle after all. OCI is a very different from what you've seen from Oracle in the past. It was created by ex-AWS, Azure, and GCP engineers, based on our collective experiences within those platforms. From some regards you might say we are to Oracle, what Azure was to Microsoft earlier on. A wildly different way of doing things. Using standard /…

Is Oracle going to start putting their OCI API client code into distros and get distros official accounts for distributing images etc? (Debian would be my first choice for this)

I'm not sure what the plan is for the SDKs, that's handled by a completely different team.

The SDKs are open source and can be installed fairly easily, e.g. the python sdk is up in pypi, as is the oci cli.

Vendors are welcome to sign up and start publishing images via the marketplace on our platform. That's an option available today, without specific need for OCI to engage. SuSE are in there, for example.

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In the context of AWS Free Tier, the non-obtuse option is you do the EC2 t3.micro with Linux on it, maybe also the RDS t3.micro, and you ignore all that make-things-harder-so-consultants-can-charge-more nonsense. Install your own nginx, install your own node or python or whatever, ignore all their obtuse crap. Heroku is cool, too, though.

There's no "always free" AWS tier though, correct? You're still going to end up paying for the app after 12 months, or am I missing something?

That's also my understanding. Heroku, on the other hand, has no time-limit on their free tier, but it's always kinda broken (startup times). AWS's free tier is the real deal. That's a trade-off.

But that's orthogonal to the point I was making, and the comment I was replying to. If someone likes Heroku because of it's pricing clarity and its ease of setup... well, the pricing simplicity of an EC2 instance is just as good, and the ease of setup is even better.

More broadly, if you're evaluating them against each other....

Heroku isn't the easiest to set up, nor is it the simplest. It's not the easiest because you have to learn a bunch of Heroku-specific things, that you'll just have to reinvent/relearn/etc if you ever want to switch providers. To call it "vendor lock-in" might be a bit of a stretch, but it has aspects of that. With EC2, it's just server management, same as it ever was, same as it'd be on some other cloud.

(Note that many OTHER AWS services are far worse than Heroku in this respect. And/or better, depending on your goals.)

Heroku aims to be a sweet spot. A few hours (or days, maybe) invested in learning to use it properly, and you get a pretty reasonable bundle of tools and support and so on. But if you want to dive deep, Heroku's probably a waste of time. And and the other extreme, if you don't want to learn anything about an individual provider's proprietary crap, then Heroku also will not work out that well for you. Saying "this is our sweet spot" is a respectable position, even if you don't like the sweet spot.

(Personally, I'm still boycotting Heroku over their years of misrepresenting their "dynamic mesh routing", which was always fiction and which they lied about for years, and charged customers for something that they knew full well they weren't delivering. Don't get into bed with sociopaths, even if you like their sweet spot.)

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> Azure Kubernetes Service - Managed Kubernetes service, free cluster management Since this one is the bane of my existence at the moment. Yeah, this statement is technically correct, it is technically free, but you still pay for the VMs that are part of the cluster, and their disks. (Unless they can qualify for some other "free" metric.) But we've been using this, and we've had lots of spans of time where the manage…

My company has also hit capacity issues with the managed Azure Kubenetes that were not fixable as Azure users.

Re: Free for Developers

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It would be neat if HN could offer something like "Login By Facebook" that returned user/create date/karma. Would make a nice testbed for offering free stuff while having some high pass filter like "HN account > 3 months old and has > 500 karma."

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So question for the masses, I’ve wanted to setup a personal account on Google cloud, azure etc and take advantage of free stuff but I am terrified something will happen and I’ll mess something up or someone will mess it up for me and I’ll be out hundreds on my credit card. Any suggestions here? Great list.

Set up a budget. At least Azure has those, and you can set whatever limit you want. If you hit the limit, the access will be cut off (and VMs shut down, etc). Your data will not be lost, though. When the new billing period rolls around, all will be back to normal. I highly recommend something like this if you want to learn the cloud and do not have an employer to sponsor an account for you. All these suggestions of u…

Be careful with that. On AWS, at least, you can get a massive bill before the limits kick in.

There have been horror stories posted here before.

Re: Free for Developers

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Does anyone know of a decent tutorial for building low-volume / prototype interactive web applications using one of the major cloud-hosting providers, wholly within the free limits? Any framework would be interesting for learning purposes. I have some older MVC .NET sites and I poked around with Azure free Windows Server VMs, but the performance is so painfully bad; if you do anything, you run out of memory. But I'm…

Another vote for Heroku. If you can get it running locally, you can get it running on Heroku. Their help docs are mostly helpful (not perfect), and if you’ve been able to get this far then you’ll have an easy time with it. The free tier has forced downtime, but I think the lowest non-free tier is only like $7/month.

Edit: also, if you find that you need other cloud offerings from AWS or Azure, you can combine it pretty easily. I did image upload to S3, for example, from a Heroku app.

Re: Free for Developers

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So question for the masses, I’ve wanted to setup a personal account on Google cloud, azure etc and take advantage of free stuff but I am terrified something will happen and I’ll mess something up or someone will mess it up for me and I’ll be out hundreds on my credit card. Any suggestions here? Great list.

Grab a revolut account. They're free, and they have a tool called 'digital temporary card' that is good for one use. After the card number is used, it's cycled. Not affiliated, I'm in Aus and I use my temp card for anything I don't want to be ongoing. Doubles as a breach safeguard (my credit card involved in a DB dump doesn't matter if it was a one-off number). There's other good reasons to use revolut but will save…

If you do something like this do NOT sign up for AWS or Google Cloud with your “main account” as a denied card can get your entire account lost.
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