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The fire extinguisher attack turned out to be BS. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/capitol-police-officers-...

That's a long conclusion to make. The statement that it had not been determined that blunt force trauma specifically caused Officer Sicknick's death doesn't make the attack BS - there's video footage of him being hit with one. And dying within 24 hours from a hemorrhagic stroke is definitely not enough to rule out the proximal impact of fire extinguishers and other implements used to beat him.

"there's video footage of him being hit with one."

You should forward that video footage to law enforcement right away, because they don't even have it. I'll even cite CNN, because I assume you believe they are trustworthy.

https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charg...

"Investigators are struggling to build a federal murder case regarding fallen US Capitol Police officer Brian Sicknick, vexed by a lack of evidence that could prove someone caused his death as he defended the Capitol during last month's insurrection. Authorities have reviewed video and photographs that show Sicknick engaging with rioters amid the siege but have yet to identify a moment in which he suffered his fatal injuries, law enforcement officials familiar with the matter said. "

"According to one law enforcement official, medical examiners did not find signs that the officer sustained any blunt force trauma, so investigators believe that early reports that he was fatally struck by a fire extinguisher are not true."

Re: Letters from House members to cable providers [pdf]

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Why were they removed from Google and Apple's app stores while Facebook, Youtube and Twitter are still available? Twitter uses AWS for some of their stuff. Why aren't they removed for violating AWS's policies?

Do you really need an explanation of why a multibillion dollar company wasn't removed and why a fringe app was?

Why do you think it wasn't removed?

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> It took me two seconds to write that. How much effort would it take you to debunk it? How long would it take you to establish enough credibility to be able to make an accusation like that and have people actually take your word for it? There might be a few nutters out there who are so predisposed to hate JFK that they'll believe anything negative about him, but most people - even those who dislike him - would right…

> How long would it take you to establish enough credibility to be able to make an accusation like that and have people actually take your word for it? Keep this in mind: Q is literally some dude on 4chan/8chan with a tripcode. > There might be a few nutters out there who are so predisposed to hate JFK that they'll believe anything negative about him, but most people - even those who dislike him - would rightfully qu…

I believe it is reasonable to speculate that QAnon members are generally trapped in extreme, right-wing echo chambers. Echo chambers enable people to retain undeserved credibility.

Re: Letters from House members to cable providers [pdf]

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Why were they removed from Google and Apple's app stores while Facebook, Youtube and Twitter are still available? Twitter uses AWS for some of their stuff. Why aren't they removed for violating AWS's policies?

Do you really need an explanation of why a multibillion dollar company wasn't removed and why a fringe app was?

We just want people to admit that the reason was a lie

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Jade Sacker doesn't work for CNN. https://www.reuters.com/article/uk-factcheck-woman-capitol-n... Feels like you are just getting played and then propagating your problems further here.

https://www.jadesacker.com/about Her client list includes CNN, NBC, etc. Yes, she's an independent photographer who is often under contract with CNN, NBC, etc. Not clear if she was at the time, tbh. That wasn't exactly my only point, the way the industry works -- CNN, NBC, etc buy content from people who go into dangerous situations. So these people are in-effect the "journalists". In her case, I don't know if she wa…

Complaining about the press being fast and loose with the facts while being fast and loose with the facts yourself is your choice.

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Hmm - 4 years of an administration doing exactly what you're describing (silencing opposition viewpoints) and now it's all unity and kumbayah? Your post is quite ironic.

Obama did far more to silence opposing viewpoints than Trump did. But you probably don't know about what Obama did, because his administration's intimidation and jailing of reporters worked. How many reporters did the Trump administration throw in jail?

Do you have a cite for the Obama reference? Quick google search says it's BS. Whereas Trump did recently threaten a reporter with jail time.

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post #104

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It is -very- partisan, and equivalent to poking a wasp nest with a stick. The country is very, very divided, not just between D vs R but also progressive vs...everyone else. I wish I had the answers(surprise, I don't), but I feel we should find some commonality, some give and take, and get on a path toward a semblance of unity. Trying to silence your opposition is what I'd call the complete opposite of that approach.

Hmm - 4 years of an administration doing exactly what you're describing (silencing opposition viewpoints) and now it's all unity and kumbayah? Your post is quite ironic.

Actually, 12 years

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> It's a legislative body which is trying to limit speech not through legislation but through intimidation Bingo! When these CEO's enact new policies that censors "Right-Think", it'll be totally okay because it's not the Government limiting Free Speech - private companies are allowed to limit Free Speech, don't you see!

That isn't what "free speech" means. Free Speech means the government won't imprison or execute you. Private companies operate private services, they can kick you off for saying "bread" if they want and it's not "limiting free speech".

You see the issue here then, right?

Government cannot limit your Free Speech, for the reason I (and you) pointed out.

So... short of any alternative tools, the Government sets out to intimidate private companies into censoring on the Government's behalf.

What more... it's not "The Government" - it's a political party that happens to be in power right now and is seeking to censor the other political party through means of intimidation and coercion of private companies.

That doesn't sit very well with me.. regardless of which party is attempting to censor which.

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> Things in the past which were labeled misinformation I know that item-level thinking like this is necessary to gain emotional traction with people, but this issue is just so obvious at a systems-level. the idea that we, right now the instant youre reading this, have discovered 100% of what there is to learn and 0% of what we know is wrong is so painfully, horrifically, obviously stupid (we've had computers for thir…

> misinformation is combat with MORE discussion, not less! I wholeheartedly agree, but how do you get the other side to listen? The saying goes something like "You can't reason someone out of a position they didn't reason themselves into."

> I wholeheartedly agree, but how do you get the other side to listen?

The only way is to stop preaching and listen to them. Really listen. This is how Daryl Davis converted the KKK according to his own accounts?

Re: Letters from House members to cable providers [pdf]

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Scary stuff, I feel like I'm slowly watching as the U.S turns into a one party state, and enforced by the government itself. We argue about how it's okay for private companies to censor whatever they feel like, but what if it's the government pressuring them to do so? They themselves in this letter mention that 50% of Americans get their news from TV, and many American's have one choice of Cable provider, and even if…

Citation to Democrats "wanting to add 12-20 million illegal immigrant voters". An outrageous claim.

Whenever you hear path to citizenship, that does entail voting.

[1]https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/16/politics/biden-immigration-le...

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