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Scientists break through the wall of sleep to the untapped world of dreams

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Re: Scientists break through the wall of sleep to the untapped world of dreams

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Post by untoxicness »

slingnow wrote: post #49

The subject stated that while he was receiving these questions, he was "dreaming that he was asleep in the lab". Isn't is just as plausible that he wasn't lucid dreaming at all, and was instead in a half-asleep, half-awake stupor and responding to the questions from his awake consciousness? It would be much more convincing if the subject were in a different landscape.

As far as I know the "brain patterns" (as measured by EEG) during sleep are quite distinct. The article mentions somebody confirming that the subject was actually sleep.

Re: Scientists break through the wall of sleep to the untapped world of dreams

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Post by easton »

mindcrime wrote: post #56

Great, I'm so excited to be asleep and have some guy show up in my dreams saying "Hi, I've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty..."

Futurama had a bit about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElkVRgeAzYs

Re: Scientists break through the wall of sleep to the untapped world of dreams

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Post by vekker »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #53

But is lucid dreaming restorative? In my experience it's kind of fun but it doesn't really help me feel more rested.

They can give an incredible energy boost and moodlift in my experience, but if feeling physically more rested is the goal, then I wouldn't spend the time & effort to try to induce lucid dreams.

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Post by lucasmullens »

netizen-936824 wrote: post #29
smitty1e wrote: post #24

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't wait until we grasp that 'can'!='should' and figure out how to leave things up to nature.

Are humans not part of nature?

If you include humans as part of nature, then isn't literally everything part of nature? The common phrase "let nature take its course" would have no meaning then.

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Post by andai »

throw1234651234 wrote: post #62
ckosidows wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Isn't it possible other people experience their dreams in a different way than you do?

Sure, it's possible, by in my experience, most people exaggerate everything - especially things that can't be verified. The other reason I have a hard time believing this is that I know normal people can't visualize anything. Artists, really good artists, are able to visualize a face with some detail. Most can't visualize a circle and toggle its color, let alone anything complex. To me, that is a strong argument to b…

Aphantasia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aphantasia

Re: Scientists break through the wall of sleep to the untapped world of dreams

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Post by watertom »

officialjunk wrote: post #60
mindcrime wrote: post #56

Great, I'm so excited to be asleep and have some guy show up in my dreams saying "Hi, I've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty..."

tin foil hats will make a comeback

You need your body encased in a Faraday cage otherwise the tin, or more likely aluminum, hat won't be blocking anything. In fact as some suggest it could act to focused the brain controls waves straight to the brain

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Post by mehphp »

throw1234651234 wrote: post #51
Kelamir wrote: post #43

AING folks have been doing lucid dreaming for years, their Russian forum at forum.aing.ru has 400k messages, so if you're interested in the topic, there's something you can learn from them. They have a number of attempts to make contacts with each other while lucid dreaming. You can check out the English version for their stuff here: https://obe4u.com

I have practiced lucid dreaming for literally years, and imho anyone who says they get super detailed dreams is full of **. Your mind doesn't have enough processing power to render realistic scenes. It's all a blurry mess and you wake up if you exert too much control.

This seems odd to me, I definitely have very detailed and realistic dreams. I'm also a very visual thinker so maybe we are just different?

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Post by airhead969 »

easton wrote: post #82
mindcrime wrote: post #56

Great, I'm so excited to be asleep and have some guy show up in my dreams saying "Hi, I've been trying to reach you about your car's extended warranty..."

Futurama had a bit about this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElkVRgeAzYs

I want my covid stimulus $300 Nixon Bucks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X_HyY-8dQJA

Re: Scientists break through the wall of sleep to the untapped world of dreams

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Post by airhead969 »

MisterBastahrd wrote: post #79
officialjunk wrote: post #60

Earlier quoted context omitted.

tin foil hats will make a comeback

Fitted colanders are the new fedora.

Proper attire on Chapek 9.

http://theinfosphere.org/images/2/23/Chapek_9_Propaganda_1.p...

Re: Scientists break through the wall of sleep to the untapped world of dreams

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Post by beermonster »

codr7 wrote: post #76
throw1234651234 wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I have practiced lucid dreaming for literally years, and imho anyone who says they get super detailed dreams is full of **. Your mind doesn't have enough processing power to render realistic scenes. It's all a blurry mess and you wake up if you exert too much control.

Visualization is a skill that can be practiced, and some brains just seem to be more visually oriented than others from my experience.

You can always try and simplify too. Some days I can visualise anything I want, other times my mind seems too busy or not focussed. On those days I visualise being in an empty cloudy pool, or walking in a snowy field as there’s less for me to render. Works quite well.
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