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Post by ForHackernews »

jandrese wrote: post #328
ForHackernews wrote: post #295

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According to this https://www.influencer.agency/instagram-influencer-rates/ it's ~$10k for a campaign from an influencer with 1M+ followers. Make ten deals like that per year, that's $100,000k.

You have to repeat that once a month to break into the middle class, assuming you have to pay for all your own healthcare, retirement, insurance, etc... What a dismal existence.

You mean once a month you have to make some social media posts? You conside that a "dismal existence". I know it's almost a cliche to point out HN users being out of touch with normal people, but have you ever had a real job that didn't involve sitting in a climate controlled office typing on a computer?

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Post by DonHopkins »

Mediterraneo10 wrote: post #45
keiferski wrote: post #17

I always thought Daft Punk figured out the perfect solution to the how to be famous problem. Everyone recognizes their artist name and their artist costume, but virtually no one knows their real name or would accost them on the street.

Several other musicians have done the same through mask wearing. Gene Simmons of Kiss was probably rarely recognized in public before, much later in life, he started appearing in television programs without his makeup. MF Doom, Sia, the list goes on.

The Unknown Comic on The Gong Show, with a paper lunch bag over his head.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Unknown_Comic

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9BBZVQ4zBcU&ab_channel=RBArc...

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Post by ryanbrunner »

ForHackernews wrote: post #421
jandrese wrote: post #328

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You have to repeat that once a month to break into the middle class, assuming you have to pay for all your own healthcare, retirement, insurance, etc... What a dismal existence.

You mean once a month you have to make some social media posts? You conside that a "dismal existence". I know it's almost a cliche to point out HN users being out of touch with normal people, but have you ever had a real job that didn't involve sitting in a climate controlled office typing on a computer?

Despite the low effort though, being entirely reliant on online fame isn't exactly something with a lot of longevity built into it. Having 1MM followers this year is nowhere near a guarantee of growing or even keeping your follower base the next year.

$100K doesn't seem like a particularly amazing payoff for that. Most "real jobs" tend to become more stable and lucrative as you gain experience. I'd definitely prefer a job that paid $50K that I could at least somewhat rely on to exist next year over $100K that could disappear at any second.

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Post by bsanr »

EricE wrote: post #142
spoonjim wrote: post #76

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You might be surprised how little of a “disguise” can make you unrecognizable. Shakira took a history class at UCLA and just by not wearing makeup and using her legal name Isabel, nobody recognized her (or if they did, they didn’t say anything). The “Shakira” you see on TV is such an artificial construction that someone seeing her without any of the artifice has no idea it’s “her.”

I think a bit of that is you don't expect to see someone famous just walking down the street. On more than on occasion I've passed someone and went "Was that.... naw, couldn't be" then found out later that yes, it really was that person. The corollary to the S.E.P. field in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy (SEP - Somebody Else's Problem Field - loved the concept for the ultimate invisibility cloak)

I worked at a Best Buy which was the most easily-accessible location to residents of one of the most affluent majority-black counties in the country (that is to say, most of the county is not particularly affluent, but that it attracts a small proportion of extremely well-off individuals and families who want to be near DC and aren't spooked by the demographics). We apparently had several celebrities come through the store - some that I even directly interacted with or sold products to - but 99% of the time, I didn't even know they were famous until after they'd left (it happened enough that I developed a reputation for overattention to customer service, to the detriment of my ability to be aware and suitably star-struck).These included:

> A famous actress, who was just the warmest person ever

> Several rappers

> Several championship-winning athletes

> Michael Steele, who was apparently a Geek Squad regular

My favorite was probably the gentleman who I believe had been on the Cosby Show: he came in twice, both times to drop 5 figures on TVs. Dude singlehandedly saved my job.

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Post by pault »

turdnagel wrote: post #177
pault wrote: post #69

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I think a lot of people were expecting more of the electro that they pioneered and got turned off by the heavy disco influence.

Electro / disco is not the right dichotomy, as their music has always sat at an intersection between genres. Homework, Discovery, and Human After All are all heavily sample-based, and there are like 1 or 2 samples on all of Random Access Memories. That is the big difference.

I think it goes deeper than that. They practically defined the 2010s electro genre, with heavy use of aggressive synthesizers, drum machines, and vocoders for nearly all the vocals. RAM was cleaner, more understated, and very, very slick. You could be forgiven for thinking it was a completely different band. Of course all interpretation of musical genre is subjective. :)

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Post by runamok »

cbozeman wrote: post #330
crispyambulance wrote: post #271

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> Eric Weinstein also seemed to run into this fairly quickly ... No, I don't think so. Any blowback he's gotten is not from "fame" but rather his difficult personality.

It's a good thing he absolutely insists on being sesquipedalian, because it limits his audience. He seems to fancy himself as Tech Faulkner; I'd rather be Tech Hemingway.

Ironic you used that word as I can imagine it limited yours on this comment too. :-)

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Post by imwillofficial »

nr2x wrote: post #214
imwillofficial wrote: post #168

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I was a Daft Club member! I remember being made fun of when I was like 15 listening to Human After All, and people just not getting it. Daft Punk was the soundtrack to my hacker youth. I’m forever grateful and wish them the best in their retirement.

To be fair, Human After All is not their best record. ;-)

I meant Discovery hahaha

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Post by imwillofficial »

siquick wrote: post #362
imwillofficial wrote: post #168

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I was a Daft Club member! I remember being made fun of when I was like 15 listening to Human After All, and people just not getting it. Daft Punk was the soundtrack to my hacker youth. I’m forever grateful and wish them the best in their retirement.

This makes me feel very old - I saw them on the 1997 Homework tour when I wasn't much older than that.

Not old, aged like a fine wine, full of boldness and good stories. I’m jealous!

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Post by jandrese »

ForHackernews wrote: post #421
jandrese wrote: post #328

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You have to repeat that once a month to break into the middle class, assuming you have to pay for all your own healthcare, retirement, insurance, etc... What a dismal existence.

You mean once a month you have to make some social media posts? You conside that a "dismal existence". I know it's almost a cliche to point out HN users being out of touch with normal people, but have you ever had a real job that didn't involve sitting in a climate controlled office typing on a computer?

Once a month you have to bust your hump to come up with crowdfunding so you can hock T-Shirts and sell enough to make a very modest profit.

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Post by core-questions »

spoonjim wrote: post #301
core-questions wrote: post #236

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Facial recognition is being banned for law enforcement use not because it doesn't work, or is ineffective, or is undesirable, but because it reveals politically uncomfortable truths about who commits crime that existing crime stats were already pointing out in a less visceral way.

LOL. And reveals uncomfortable truths about what the law has defined as a “crime,” where killing one person in a $100 drug transaction gets you life without parole, while fraudulently marketing OxyContin as non-addictive while knowing it is addictive, thus creating the opioid epidemic that has killed 500,000 people to date, and hiring McKinsey to solve your “my drug is killing people” problem gets you a $3 million fi…

What if I told you that both things are bad, and that I want the perpetrators of both crimes to face proportionate punishment? There's no reason for one's critique to fall victim to a false dichotomy here, even if the American political environment tries to do that. Maybe it helps that I'm not American....

Killing one person in any kind of failed transaction is a bad enough offense that I believe you deserve at least a decade in jail. That said, I do believe in rehabiliatory justice, and that we shouldn't just throw people into an environment that's essentially some cross between a dysfunctional highschool and a networking seminar for criminals; but people who are willing to kill over $100 do not belong in public until they have proven conclusively that they have enough self control to be released.

The opiate epidemic, on the other hand, is a crime so heinous that it is nearly genocide-tier in nature. The perpetrators of such (i.e. the Sacklers among others) knew what they were doing, continually doubled down over time, and profited tremendously. Such parenthetical elites usually suffer absolutely zero punishment for their actions, nor is there any attempt to make rehabiliatory justics take on the challenge of so-called "white collar crime". At best, the perp learns how to hide their intentions and actions more, how to operate behind more intermediaries for abstraction's sake, etc.

Now, consider the topic at hand (which is somehow facial recog and not Daft Punk whom I loved dearly): what is the common factor here? It's simple: if you perform an analysis of the group memberships of the people who commit crimes in the aggregate, uncomfortable truths are revealed.

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