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Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

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I started running a self hosted Nextcloud instance last year, and I couldn’t be happier with it! This release sounds exciting, guess it’s time to go upgrade :) For those looking to ‘de-Google’ their lives, and control their own data Nextcloud is one of the best options out there.

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Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

#92
post #14

I really wish there was an LTS release that was supported for at least 2 years (just bugfixes, no new features). I self host my own instance, and I really just want to set it and forget it. I don't mind doing low risk patches every few months or weeks, but I don't want to do a major version upgrade every 4-6 months. I did my last major version upgrade only 15 months ago, and I am now 4 major versions behind, which me…

Haha thanks to your comment I noticed I'm using nextCloud 16. I'm going to make a few upgrades now and I'll tell you how it went.

Edit:

Miration 18->19 is now stuck on

Step 4 is currently in process. Please reload this page later.

which is downloading zip with new version...

Edit2:

I restarted installation multiple times, increased pfp-fpm and nginx timeout to 660 seconds and still getting this error.

Not today...

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

#93
post #71

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Browsing a directory of essentially static artifacts is really slow in nextcloud. Git isn’t the best place to store binaries and assets and we tried nextcloud as an alternative since we are already hosting it.

Nextcloud isn't serving static files, it was serving a database hit in a PHP environment throwing away a lot of stuff on every connection and doing all sorts of things. Presumably this newer backend does less stuff (as that is the key to performance). Debian serves static files.

I don't think there was any doubt that it was an architectural question. I think the essence of what's being asked is that when jira and nextcloud should be doing next to nothing (based on the inherent complexity of what's materially being done), they seem to have to do quite a lot.

> Presumably this newer backend does less stuff

Presumably not in terms of removing features, but in terms of having been refactored.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

#94
post #38

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That's very true. I run quite a few services on my local network for my family (wireguard, nextcloud, homeassistant, frigate, pihole, jellyfin, bitwarden, ...). While I enjoy setting up and playing with these service, I need to think about managing all these services as little as possible as I don't want to spend all my free time being a system admin. Also, often a new release is not just a system admin task. Sure, i…

I am exactly in the same situation as you (I did not know frigate, but I do not have cameras either - otherwise you listed my main systems). I managed to reduce administration to a minimum by using watchtower to automatically upgrade my containers and using mostly the :latest label. This bit me only twice in a few years: - with the 19-20 migration of Nextcloud, I had one big blank screen when logging in but the synch…

I'm currently testing a new appliance setup with Nextcloud which includes the ability to use containers as a default for everything, if your container can be moved to an empty VM, nothing gets deleted as I didn't touch it. I would be really happy if this helped.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

#95
To the people who have been using Nextcloud successfully for years: is your usage mainly PC-PC or PC-iOS synchronization? Is anyone here running PC-Android synchronization with files that change more often than once a day?

My experience with the Nextcloud Android app is that the automatic sync is quite limited (eg. https://github.com/nextcloud/android/issues/757, https://github.com/nextcloud/android/issues/19). Every change has to be manually synced by opening the app and navigating to the Sync option for each file. This is pretty much a dealbreaker for me, but it looks like a lot of people are using Nextcloud successfully. So I'm curious how your usage differs from mine - do you only use it for static unchanging files that don't need to be synchronized that often, or is the sync situation smoother on other devices?

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

#96
post #94

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I am exactly in the same situation as you (I did not know frigate, but I do not have cameras either - otherwise you listed my main systems). I managed to reduce administration to a minimum by using watchtower to automatically upgrade my containers and using mostly the :latest label. This bit me only twice in a few years: - with the 19-20 migration of Nextcloud, I had one big blank screen when logging in but the synch…

I'm currently testing a new appliance setup with Nextcloud which includes the ability to use containers as a default for everything, if your container can be moved to an empty VM, nothing gets deleted as I didn't touch it. I would be really happy if this helped.

Could you please elaborate a bit on the appliance?

I use a home-grade PC with Ubuntu LTS on which there is nothing except for:

- docker

- borg (backup program)

- wireguard (VPN)

- sshd

I then copy /etc/docker from backup, mount some external disks with the data (either backed up or not for things I do not care about), reboot and I am done.

My recovery lasted one hour from starting the download of the ISO to being back on line.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

#98
post #85
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I really wish there was an LTS release that was supported for at least 2 years (just bugfixes, no new features). I self host my own instance, and I really just want to set it and forget it. I don't mind doing low risk patches every few months or weeks, but I don't want to do a major version upgrade every 4-6 months. I did my last major version upgrade only 15 months ago, and I am now 4 major versions behind, which me…

This has spawned a huge thread that I honestly didn't read all of, but someone else mentioned to me they use the 'Community' Snap package. I did not set mine up with this, but it apparently requires a lot less hands on maintenance. In your case you might be interested. https://docs.nextcloud.com/server/21/admin_manual/installati... https://snapcraft.io/nextcloud Apparently it auto-updates for you, but I'm not sure if…

The snap does upgrade major versions, although from my experience it tends to be on a delay to ensure stability.

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

#99
post #62

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Right but I think the original point was that it would be nice not to have to do that. An LTS connected to a NAS would avoid all of that. Lol.

Except it's not your call to make, or OP's call to make. You're already getting quite a piece of software for free, demanding extended long-term support isn't really fair, expecially if you consider that they offer a simple update procedure.

There was a wish. Not a demand.

Many software has it so it's not unreasonable to simply discuss something that would be nice

Re: Nextcloud Hub 21

#100
post #67

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This is my problem with it as well. I used to have a self hosted nextcloud instance, but my main usage was for the file syncing. Nextcloud seems to be poor to decent at everything it does, but never great. So unless your goal is to have a suite of mediocre appliances that do the bare minimum, nextcloud is good. But all I wanted was a nice and quick way to sync all my files (I'm talking 500k files here) and have some…

I moved from syncthing (and seafile) to nexcloud because I was missing one key thing: the ability to share files (by providing an URL, or to a group (think common files with spouse)). Otherwise I completely agree with the sentiment.

It does work with Nextcloud, though. [1] is the Nextcloud logo linkes from my instance, [2] is the direct link.

Or am I misunderstanding your point?

1: https://cloud.zwog.org/index.php/s/TmKoyWqxXaGAnqo

2: https://cloud.zwog.org/index.php/s/TmKoyWqxXaGAnqo/preview

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