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Scientists break through the wall of sleep to the untapped world of dreams

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Re: Scientists break through the wall of sleep to the untapped world of dreams

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Post by throw1234651234 »

Kelamir wrote: post #43

AING folks have been doing lucid dreaming for years, their Russian forum at forum.aing.ru has 400k messages, so if you're interested in the topic, there's something you can learn from them. They have a number of attempts to make contacts with each other while lucid dreaming. You can check out the English version for their stuff here: https://obe4u.com

I have practiced lucid dreaming for literally years, and imho anyone who says they get super detailed dreams is full of **. Your mind doesn't have enough processing power to render realistic scenes. It's all a blurry mess and you wake up if you exert too much control.

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Post by teddyh »

pferde wrote: post #50
teddyh wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Possibly your concept of “human” needs updating, since “corporate America” still consists of mostly humans.

A cynicist's take would be that "corporate America", what with its laser-sharp focus on remorselessly exploiting everything and everyone for own profit, is actually very much human, as that is exactly what most humans have done since the very beginning.

“Cynic, n. A blackguard whose faulty vision sees things as they are, not as they ought to be.”

— Ambrose Bierce, The Devil’s Dictionary (1881-1906)

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Post by ReDeiPirati »

Jeff_Brown wrote: post #53

But is lucid dreaming restorative? In my experience it's kind of fun but it doesn't really help me feel more rested.

From personal experience, after lucid dreaming (not semi-lucid) I feel like a vulcano. Seriously, I've never experience something as energising as lucid dreaming. I still remember the first time I had my first one: I felt like I was overloaded by electricity, one of the best sensation of my life. On the other hand, when the lucid dream transitions to semi-lucid and no-lucid, then I usually feel pretty tired.

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Post by twic »

The title references H. P. Lovecraft's story 'Beyond the Wall of Sleep':

https://www.hplovecraft.com/writings/texts/fiction/bws.aspx

A lot of scientific research has been inspired by science fiction, but i tend to think that the worlds of H. P. Lovecraft, Philip K. Dick, etc might best be avoided rather than sought out.

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