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The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

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Re: The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

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Given that many of these only have three wheels and to my knowledge regulation on “cars” only applies if the vehicle has four wheels- I wonder why these aren’t available in the USA at the same time.

Where I live many people have "Golf Carts" that they run around the place in.

Re: The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

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People will soon learn product is only half the story. What about service and support? Good luck getting it from these cheap Chinese companies that don’t give a fuck about you and probably go out of business in a few years anyway. I mean look at this, one company is literally called Shit ou Cars. Shit-on-you Cars!

This rings a bit hollow given how notably poor Tesla’s customer service is.

Ok this is just false.

Re: The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

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Those don't look too safe. I can't imagine you'd survive being hit by anything bigger than a mini in any of those boxes. Of course people are buying unsafe alternatives for a fraction of a price... disclaimer: not a tesla fanboy... I don't think they have the right hardware for FSD and that Musk is a bit too wrongheaded to admit that.

They don't go that fast. If auto manufacturers designed cars that would go max ~25 mph, the safety concerns are completely different and much less. A Tesla is WAY overbuilt for going 25 mph.

Elon Musk said that Tesla would never build these because they aren’t safe but I do think it would be an interesting exercise to design one that is even cheaper yet also safer.

Re: The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

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This rings a bit hollow given how notably poor Tesla’s customer service is.

Ok this is just false.

That Tesla has bad customer service? Check out any forum for Tesla owners; there’s tons of love for the cars, the software, etc, but even the most die hard fan forum will admit that they haven’t prioritized their customer service.

There are constant horror stories from people who were pressured into accepting delivery of cars with defects, only to spent months fighting with the service center to repair glaring issues. Or users who reached out to support for account issues and receiving no response.

Re: The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

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These vehicles are more like golf carts than cars. Top speed of 56km/hr. No safety features. What is interesting is that the batteries, converters, and motors are so cheap that they offer a golf cart with a vehicle body for $2500.

Isnt it safer compared to a bike?

Re: The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Ok this is just false.

That Tesla has bad customer service? Check out any forum for Tesla owners; there’s tons of love for the cars, the software, etc, but even the most die hard fan forum will admit that they haven’t prioritized their customer service. There are constant horror stories from people who were pressured into accepting delivery of cars with defects, only to spent months fighting with the service center to repair glaring issues…

That’s because the only people posting are the ones that have issues.

Re: The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

That Tesla has bad customer service? Check out any forum for Tesla owners; there’s tons of love for the cars, the software, etc, but even the most die hard fan forum will admit that they haven’t prioritized their customer service. There are constant horror stories from people who were pressured into accepting delivery of cars with defects, only to spent months fighting with the service center to repair glaring issues…

That’s because the only people posting are the ones that have issues.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/11/teslas-biggest-problem-is-cu...

Re: The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

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Given that many of these only have three wheels and to my knowledge regulation on “cars” only applies if the vehicle has four wheels- I wonder why these aren’t available in the USA at the same time.

The regulations on "cars" apply if they drive on most streets.

We've regulated our way into being forced to buy $20,000+ vehicles weighing thousands of pounds, and somehow see this as normal and natural.

Re: The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

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These vehicles are more like golf carts than cars. Top speed of 56km/hr. No safety features. What is interesting is that the batteries, converters, and motors are so cheap that they offer a golf cart with a vehicle body for $2500.

Cities probably should be filled with max 56kph tiny vehicles rather than max 249kph vehicles. Space is limited and standard cars take up a lot of it.

If we ever get to a world of on-demand, self driving vehicles, This might be one kind of vehicle that you could request. Maybe the default, unless you need a high speed or long distance ride.

Re: The road to electric is filled with tiny cars

#30

This is something I realized recently. I am in India and the number of small manufacturers who are making electric people movers is very high. These are not high speed vehicles, they are below 40 KM/h speed as I see them, but the big shift is that hundreds of small companies around India are producing and maintaining small electric vehicles, mostly locally. The drivers charge them at home at night or during longer lu…

It’s good and almost all of them assemble the small EV from ready made CKD (completely knocked down) kits from neighbouring country (imported legally or illegally due to policy ban to show as produced in India).

The value addition is in terms of making an outer body or assembling the imported battery cells and wheels (comes with inbuilt motor), depending on the capacity.

India lacks basic manufacturing capability at present and is still a decade or two behind major players in this industry. Indeed almost all EV including the much celebrated local brands rely on supply from other countries (mostly from an immediate neighbour especially for battery cells, wheels with motors, PCB and power management electronics). India makes only vehicle body based on local needs.

Hopefully this kind of car manufacturer are directly allowed to setup factories in India, instead of those middleman who try to get a large cut in India for substandard products, just for moving products due to restrictions and complications due to government policies of indigenous development, promoting inefficient indigenous manufacturers.

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