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Re: Show HN: Ad Network for Sideprojects

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Post by etaioinshrdlu »

wakatime wrote: post #39

I'm very selective with the external scripts allowed on my websites. Ad networks are notorious for running malicious JavaScript on popular sites like NYTimes[1] and Yahoo[2] home pages. Any plans for an API so sites can receive ad content as JSON and display it without ever executing your external JavaScript? I might consider it for future side projects if I could npm install your client library instead of including…

It seems like iframes may be a better solution. They provide quite strong isolation of inside to outside communication. I worked in the ad tech industry 5 years ago and everything was iframes.

Re: Show HN: Ad Network for Sideprojects

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Post by max_ »

etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #71
wakatime wrote: post #39

I'm very selective with the external scripts allowed on my websites. Ad networks are notorious for running malicious JavaScript on popular sites like NYTimes[1] and Yahoo[2] home pages. Any plans for an API so sites can receive ad content as JSON and display it without ever executing your external JavaScript? I might consider it for future side projects if I could npm install your client library instead of including…

It seems like iframes may be a better solution. They provide quite strong isolation of inside to outside communication. I worked in the ad tech industry 5 years ago and everything was iframes.

Don't they take a toll on cpu & rendering times?

What do u think of images rendered on the backend?

Re: Show HN: Ad Network for Sideprojects

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Post by etaioinshrdlu »

max_ wrote: post #75
etaioinshrdlu wrote: post #71

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It seems like iframes may be a better solution. They provide quite strong isolation of inside to outside communication. I worked in the ad tech industry 5 years ago and everything was iframes.

Don't they take a toll on cpu & rendering times? What do u think of images rendered on the backend?

Yep, they definitely have a performance impact. Plain old image tags are really lightweight and secure. Unfortunately these simple methods are highly susceptible to ad impression fraud. Really, all online advertising is susceptible to fraud, but if you're paying for clicks or impressions, you can tame the fraud with mass amounts of JS, browser sniffing, data collection, aggregate analysis. This is what the large ad networks like Google do and it's a large industry with many actors.

Reducing this data collection and turning to simpler methods like images increases fraud, which decreases the amount honest publishers would earn (likely hugely). So it's definitely doable, but tends to not make much economic sense at large scale.

Re: Show HN: Ad Network for Sideprojects

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Post by toyg »

nrjames wrote: post #32
ezzato wrote: post #10

Creator here. Tiny ads is my attempt to create a cross site ad network for hackers and side projects. It's more an experiment than a serious business venture. The idea is simple. We place a little ad on each others page with a link back to ones side project. It privacy respecting (no user tracking) and will work in the beginning by me judging which project to include into the ad network. I hope to create a positive s…

I can't help but think of web rings on Geocities.

Same. Which I think is great, the real spirit of the early web.

Re: Show HN: Ad Network for Sideprojects

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Post by tracyhenry »

geocar wrote: post #68
tracyhenry wrote: post #49

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> good luck with scaling, RIP Why? Plenty of options to scale Postgres. What alternatives do you use?

The juice just isn't worth the squeeze. I can't speak for Exuma, but I've built several ad networks and buying tools that needed to handle over as much as a trillion daily events, and that means lots of HTTP event collectors writing events down into a lot of otherwise independent streams that you need to merge-sort together into coherent reporting and deduplicate client retries. In principle, anything with statement-…

Thanks for sharing!
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