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Virtual passport app presents real data risk, experts warn

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Re: Virtual passport app presents real data risk, experts warn

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In Ukraine, there is a DIYA (Дія) app developed by the government, which holds electronic national passport, passport for traveling abroad, driving license, car registration documents (including car insurance information), child birth certificate (in parents app) and tax payer information. The app generates temporarily barcodes which can be scanned by another DIYA app to verify somebody's identity or presented docume…

It's so convenient that you could even download similar databases from internet :) Database of passports and TIN of Ukraine (7 500 000 rows) https://raidforums.com/Thread-SELLING-Ukraine-Passports-INN-...

wait what? i can't believe what I'm seeing ... where's the catch?

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In the UK, you can renew your passport online too. I don't really see the risks: they check that your picture matches the old one and you still have to send your old passport for them to issue you the new one..

https://mask.id/en/

You still have to send your old passport in. Somebody who has stolen your passport can renew it. That's a fairly minimal consequence for all the trouble.

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Why do we still have borders? Is it a form of learned helplessness? As a European travelling freely inside the Schengen zone is one of the most amazing things and you can argue it has stopped war among those countries. What is the problem of not extending it to the entire world? Does anyone know? Also, it seems that tons of resources are wasted maintaining them when they could be used for increasing prosperity for everyone instead.

Re: Virtual passport app presents real data risk, experts warn

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In the UK, you can renew your passport online too. I don't really see the risks: they check that your picture matches the old one and you still have to send your old passport for them to issue you the new one..

I think the risk is now all the data in your passport app is online?

The old one for Canada was a fillable pdf, which seems more secure?

But then again, I assume they just optically scan it and it sits in a database anyways? Maybe it doesn’t matter. I just talked myself out of any concern.

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post #33

Why do we still have borders? Is it a form of learned helplessness? As a European travelling freely inside the Schengen zone is one of the most amazing things and you can argue it has stopped war among those countries. What is the problem of not extending it to the entire world? Does anyone know? Also, it seems that tons of resources are wasted maintaining them when they could be used for increasing prosperity for ev…

I am not sure if this is a serious question. Generally the idea of a common travel area makes sense if the countries at a similiar economic development (like the Schengen zone). This also means that the training skills of the people are not too differend; and this prevents all kind of social problem you would get otherwise.

Re: Virtual passport app presents real data risk, experts warn

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> IBM Canada has won $1.5M contract to develop new platform for IRCC This will buy what? A team of 4 interns and new grads for 6 months. At the end they'll have a slide deck with too much wordart in ith containing some half-baked ideas, and a few lines of code that don't do anything useful at all and are further from production readiness than starting from scratch.

I wish I was being facetious, but I really don't think I am. IBM hired extensively from my university, I know people who worked there or adjacent to IBM in industry. They hired the bottom of the cohort (computer science/software engineering) at university and didn't hire anyone who could code. They emphasised communication over technical ability (fine, ok), but their style of communication is business buzzwords in sl…

Came here to post pretty much the same.

I got a message from IBM CIC (customer innovation center). The HR lady was very rude, was looking for somebody with 6 more years than me and was disappointed by the fact that my yearly salary of the time was waay out of budget.

After that experience:

- a guy came for an interview, had been working in such place (IBM CIC). that guy had been studying agriculture (with a degree) but pivoted to computer science. he was okay-ish, but had limited experience outside of the power-point level competencies (some-times you have to come up with creative ideas)

- a colleague had worked in CIC. they really hire pretty much anyone and throw them at the customer. which basically means that it's a good place to get your foot into the industry, but you should be aiming at leaving as soon as you get any hands-on experience

Apaprently unless you work for the real IBM (doing research, ideally, or research-related stuff) you're working in a glorified sweat-shop.

Re: Virtual passport app presents real data risk, experts warn

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As a Canadian, I will provide some context around our application for passport process. I went through it a year ago (got my passport 2 days before lockdown), so it's still fresh in my head.

To get a passport, you have to go to the post office, get the paper forms (and a spare or two in case you mess up), and fill them out. They need info about where you were born, the doctor who delivered you, your current address and previous addresses, your employer, and your family.

Then, you need to go get your photo taken. With a (provincial) drivers license, you just go to the license office and they take your picture. For (federal) passports, you're kind of on your own. You have to go to _a guy_ and get the photo taken that conforms to their specs. If it's not correct, they make you do the whole process again. Most pharmacies and photo stores have gear on hand to make these, but not all do it correctly.

Finally, you need a public servant of some sort who has known you for at least two years to sign the back of one of the photos and fill out the back page of the application. They also need to be available to be interviewed about you to verify your identity during the approval process.

All in all, it took us about two weeks to get the details together, than another six weeks to get the paperwork processed. It's not a very easy process, and it's a huge bar against people who have never applied before. Having the system more user-friendly would be a massive help to the under-serviced in our country, so something like this is greatly needed. Of course, this solution is awful, but it's certainly worth the effort in my opinion.

Re: Virtual passport app presents real data risk, experts warn

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Why do we still have borders? Is it a form of learned helplessness? As a European travelling freely inside the Schengen zone is one of the most amazing things and you can argue it has stopped war among those countries. What is the problem of not extending it to the entire world? Does anyone know? Also, it seems that tons of resources are wasted maintaining them when they could be used for increasing prosperity for ev…

I am not sure if this is a serious question. Generally the idea of a common travel area makes sense if the countries at a similiar economic development (like the Schengen zone). This also means that the training skills of the people are not too differend; and this prevents all kind of social problem you would get otherwise.

It's an honest question. I just don't see that question ever being asked by anyone, to me they don't make too much sense. I understand there'd be a period where things would get messy but won't we eventually reach an equilibrium where everyone is where they want to be, no resources wasted on borders and immigration and everyone just travels and works freely everywhere?

Re: Virtual passport app presents real data risk, experts warn

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> IBM Canada has won $1.5M contract to develop new platform for IRCC This will buy what? A team of 4 interns and new grads for 6 months. At the end they'll have a slide deck with too much wordart in ith containing some half-baked ideas, and a few lines of code that don't do anything useful at all and are further from production readiness than starting from scratch.

If they outsource it they can hire lots of mid and senior level engineers using my country's salaries as a reference. Paying 34K a year salary (which is a top 0.1% salary in the Dominican Republic) they can hire up to 35 senior engineers.
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