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I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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tanseydavid wrote: post #388
varispeed wrote: post #242

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The dangers of the drug mostly come from its legal status and that it is being adulterated with various substances in the unregulated market. People also don't get a leaflet that they can consult on the strength or dosage so often they overdose. Medical grade heroin is not as dangerous as people supporting prohibition would like it to be. You can take clean heroin for decades and be perfectly fine. This would rather…

>> You can take clean heroin for decades and be perfectly fine. This seems to me to be a excessively myopic way of thinking about it. To the point of amounting to rationalization.

If you suffer from chronic pain, that's your only option if everything else fails. Opiates plus cannabis can make one's life bearable. Unfortunately many people would like them to suffer instead just to satisfy their own morals - for them someone else's suffering is a virtue.

Re: I am a heroin user. I do not have a drug problem

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didibus wrote: post #690
Out_of_Characte wrote: post #668

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>I thought he meant it similarly. There was no ambiguity, from the article "Your birthright to use drugs is part of the pursuit of happiness, you write." The author consideres it a birthright to use drugs irrespective of the consequences drugs have for a percentage of the population. To wear or not to wear masks however is "... potentially impacting the rights of other people." which is why I think its a slight contr…

I'm not sure I follow you. The way I read the author is that they argue that it's our birthright to do whatever we want, as long as it doesn't interfere with the same right of others to do whatever they want. So with that logic, it would need to be that one's use of drugs impacted another's persons rights for it to be regulated, similar to how cigarettes smoking isn't allowed everywhere, because it impacts others aro…

>it would need to be that one's use of drugs impacted another's persons rights for it to be regulated

Yes, the author claims that heroin and drug-related crimes have little to do with heroin and more with the addiction or background of a person which means that the crime of using heroin violates your birthright to do what you want as long as it does not impact the rights of others, because, the author argues, he uses heroin himself and does not infringe on other people's rights.

>so too is not wearing a mask when around others during a global pandemic.

If I have been tested negative yesterday and I do not wear a mask, Do you still think I am impacting the rights of others? The wearing ( or not) of a mask does not infringe upon anyone's rights. The invisible virus is.

Another question for you, If I have contracted covid, show symptoms and go around in as many public places wearing a mask. Do you believe I was not impacting the rights of others because I wore a mask?

The legal system is not to punish vices, the legal system is to round up behaviour that we've outlawed in a manner that proves it beyond reasonable doubt. I cannot think of any example where indirect behaviour correlated with a possible infringement of rights has been a crime. Exept in authoritarian states ofcourse. Dont take this as an endorsement of not wearing masks. I dont have a strong opinion on the subject.

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