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Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Post by bryanrasmussen »

nicky0 wrote: post #351
uniqueid wrote: post #328

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The problem is that the other guy is saying the same thing you are. Then I hope I win. Cause the other guy really likes firearms and believes Bill Gates is some sort of satanic reptilian timelord. Facebook's new governing body are interesting, but I fear will be troublesome in other ways. I don't see that model making anyone happy because I believe true impartiality is impossible. The honest and less bureaucratic app…

Essentually you are saying: "The other side is wrong, and my side is right." It's not really a nuanced point about the broader issue of speech.

Yes, as a general thing saying the other side is wrong and my side is right is just silly, because the other side is saying they're right and your side is wrong, but in the specific case where one side is demonstrably wrong then it isn't silly anymore.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Post by psyc »

goblin89 wrote: post #356
grawprog wrote: post #141

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What I really have to wonder about specifically this instance of political correctness was, how many people were honestly and truly offended by the term 'blacklist' or 'whitelist' before some lignustics, sociology, whatever professer sat down and figured out it should be offensive and told people to be offended? I feel like this about many attempts to make language politically correct, but I really do wonder, was the…

Do a thought experiment and imagine that there was a negatively tinted term in software engineering with %YOURCOUNTRY% or %YOURNATIONALITY% or %YOURPHENOTYPICTRAIT% in the name. E.g., if you’re from the US, “American pointer dereference” or something like that. (A bit far-fetched; to really resonate the experiment should include some invented cultural baggage which is difficult to do on the spot.) I want to think I p…

Well, "beta releases" never for one moment reminded me of my failures in dating or leadership.

But, to tangentially riff on your point, white straight cis males could never be recognized as even being capable of having such feelings, even if they had them. Only systematically oppressed peoples can feel that way, so it is said.

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Post by KozmoNau7 »

bsder wrote: post #353
thaumasiotes wrote: post #304

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> I firmly believe that smoking bans have killed live music What's the connection?

Intermediate size venues got wiped out because smokers are extremely profitable--smoking and drinking go together. You can have a small venue ( 1000) because it probably reached self-supporting. However, we lost a LOT of 100-1000 size venues from about 1990 to about 2005. And those are the ones that working musicians can make a living off of. But those need the stupidly profitable contingent that goes along with smok…

There must be other factors at play, because pre-pandemic I attended several live music events every month, a lot of them small Of course, all venues make sure to have outside areas for smoking, because that's the sensible thing to do.

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Post by xmprt »

serf wrote: post #249
awillen wrote: post #148

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People forget that they get these free services for free, and a big portion of that is because ML tools are able to cheaply do a really hard job of moderating. You hear about things like this because they're so unusual, which is a testament to the amount of time they work correctly without being noticed. Granted, there have been some issues with people getting banned from Google services for what appear to be wrong r…

> ...that is because ML tools are able to cheaply do a really hard job of moderating I mean , YouTube is huge, but we had moderation-at-scale before ML was a popular phrase to bandy around. 'ML' and 'Algorithms' are just convenient non-human bogeyman that any corporation can pin all their woes on without batting an eye right now -- a convenient explanation tool for when things go wrong. I am going to take a bold stan…

> YouTube is not a free service. This fallacy needs to go.

To anyone still not convinced, YouTube takes 45% of all ad revenue generated on videos that YouTube had no part in creating.

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Post by kdmytro »

joker3393 wrote: post #253
waterhouse wrote: post #30

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You joke (I think), but given what happened to the "master" branch on GitHub, it seems likely that some people will try to push the point, and, if they make enough noise, it's likely that the organizations involved will eventually cave (not the chess grandmasters (!), but the administrator types). I googled a bit and turned up a couple of news articles: https://apnews.com/article/184386cc09be6c69535919402a13fa3f and…

"Master", as in "Grandmaster" is obviously problematic, with its obvious reference to north-American slavery. They should change to Grand Wizard or something like that.

Wait until they hear about International Master.

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Post by narrator »

uniqueid wrote: post #311
Filligree wrote: post #288

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Why should people be allowed to watch anything except what's best for them? /s

I don't care if what you watch is good or bad for you . I care if what you watch turns you into a threat to me . Based on the past few years, it looks like maybe 20% of the general population is suggestible enough to endanger the rest of us.

The Soviets put their dissidents into mental hospitals, because obviously they were crazy and dangerous to oppose socialism.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Political_abuse_of_psychiatry_...

Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Post by [deleted] »

x86_64Ubuntu wrote: post #267
dagmx wrote: post #128

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> Not sure what a thinly resourced piece like this is doing so high up on HN. Honestly, and anecdotally, I think there's been a large influx of people recently on the right wing spectrum and/or the more outrage driven spectrum. I've noticed a considerable shift in the number of outraged comments and right wing view points in the last few months. I believe this ties in to the deplatforming of Parler. I can only surmis…

The tech world, while seen as largely as being left wing, has had a strong right-wing libertarian streak. This streak seems to have followed the same right-ward march and increase in rhetoric as your standard conservatism.

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Re: YouTube blocked chess channel after mistaken detection of racial slurs

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Post by KozmoNau7 »

Fogest wrote: post #298
richiebful1 wrote: post #285

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I understand that reckoning with racism is uncomfortable, but I don't understand how that 99 percent invisible episode is a personal attack on you. If anything, it's a reminder that well intensioned design (saving downtown) can have consequences (increased policing of Black men). I have seen and listened to a lot of race-conscious content over the last few years. As a white man, I can't say I've taken any of it as a…

It's not that it is a personal attack, it's more that I expect more talk about the actual architecture and infrastructure behind the topic versus making it a political topic. I didn't notice them providing any statistics in regards to the racial issues. All I noticed was anecdotal evidence and an incredibly biased account of a single police encounter that happened back in 2014. They are using one guys story and a sin…

Everything is politics, and the fact that so many of us have managed to stay unaware and insulated from that for so long, is one of the clearest indicators of privilege there is.

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Post by _nalply »

chii wrote: post #331
drak0n1c wrote: post #225

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Advertisers, youtubers, users, brands - everyone was happy prior to the era of demonetization. What killed the golden goose was an extremely small set of activists and journalists (specifically Media Matters and Vox) methodically threatening brands with publication of screenshots of their "support" for controversial niche videos. And just enough brand marketing and YouTube employees were cowed, or at least ideologica…

It's stupid, because in the era of television, people understood that the advertising commercial breaks in programmes were distinct from the actual content of the programme, and that the advertisers are _not_ endorsing the contents of the programme at all! How this somehow translated, in the era of online youtube videos, to the exact opposite is still a mystery to me. So what if your ad appeared next to something rad…

It's because ads online are targeted.
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