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There IS one thing different this time, COVID Things will happen, it just takes time
What's the relation between COVID and this genocide?
What happens in China does not stay in China? Public perception in other words
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#42How many people have died in this so called genocide?
If you omit “so called” this might be a good question.
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#43Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are comments on HN right now where people are questioning whether freedom of speech is good in the US by US citizens. Why would someone from China think it’s working after the shit show of 2020 and our own citizens not having confidence?
If you’re referring to comments like mine challenging the idea that private websites banning anyone for any reason has anything to do with free speech, you’re wildly mischaracterizing your US audience.
> private websites banning anyone for any reason has anything to do with free speech, you’re wildly mischaracterizing your US audience.
If US citizens already have a hard time discerning this imagine someone from China.
It’s amateur capital driven censorship. It’s inefficient, confusing, and divides a nation. Yes it would be viewed as suboptimal from someone familiar with nationalism and censorship in China.
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#44The world did nothing when same was happening in Tibet and China was a fraction of its current power. Nothing is going to happen now when China is obviously more powerful. Moreover, none of the Muslim countries care, ME countries will happily sell China oil and Pakistan touts it’s relationship with China.
The world would have done nothing about Hitler if he hadn't started invading the rest of Europe [1]. And the CCP is smart enough to focus on economic domination instead of land-war.
This is my greatest fear for humanity right now.
[1] https://www.historyextra.com/period/20th-century/britain-ado...
Edit: Why would this get downvoted? Do you disagree with the interpretation of history (and extrapolation to our current situation), or do you disagree that this prospect is a bad thing?
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Do the Muslim countries care, No!
That's the interesting part TBH... why is nobody sticking up for them?
Because for all the crap people give America for conducting foreign policy according to its economic interests, everybody else does the same. And right now, doing business with China is lucrative because of their human misery arbitrage.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are comments on HN right now where people are questioning whether freedom of speech is good in the US by US citizens. Why would someone from China think it’s working after the shit show of 2020 and our own citizens not having confidence?
There’s a credible case to be made that freedom of speech has allowed the US to prosper.
There's a credible case it's just a happy coincidence. The large single economy with, until recently, open immigration policy were possibly bigger factors.
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#47I work with a lot of folks from China and they are bending over backwards trying to defend the CCP. Their argument almost always boils down to "I know people who live in Xinjiang and they say it's not that bad." Equivalent to someone using their one black friend as proof that they can't possibly be racist.
How exactly are you approaching this conversation with your Chinese coworkers?
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Ah, in the name of the West I sincerely apologize for pushing the highly controversial and specific-to-the-West "value" of "disapproving of genocide".
Oh wait, it isn't genocide, it's just some innocent ethnic cleansing, right?
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#49> State Department Lawyers Concluded Insufficient Evidence to Prove Genocide in China
> The U.S. State Department’s Office of the Legal Advisor concluded earlier this year that China’s mass imprisonment and forced labor of ethnic Uighurs in Xinjiang amounts to crimes against humanity—but there was insufficient evidence to prove genocide, placing the United States’ top diplomatic lawyers at odds with both the Trump and Biden administrations, according to three former and current U.S. officials.
https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/02/19/china-uighurs-genocide-...
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
There are comments on HN right now where people are questioning whether freedom of speech is good in the US by US citizens. Why would someone from China think it’s working after the shit show of 2020 and our own citizens not having confidence?
If you’re referring to comments like mine challenging the idea that private websites banning anyone for any reason has anything to do with free speech, you’re wildly mischaracterizing your US audience.
"Private websites" are the contemporary public square, especially so when half the world is locked at home and forced to communicate remotely.