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Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

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post #5

"You see, freedom of speech and expression must be absolute." This is a very ignorant take on freedom of speech and a terrible foundation for your project.

"Ignorant" == you can't be bothered to come up with a genuine refutation

How about: drumming up hatred and demonizing people has a long history of terrible consequences, e.g., rwanda, nazi germany, kkk, ...

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

#43

Interesting. Have you heard of Aether though? It seems a lot simpler, but achieving the same result. It's a flood network, I believe. https://getaether.net/

Hmm. This seems like an interesting protocol.

Not a big fan of the whole mod election approach though. Seems like it might just turn into a constant scramble for power. Still, the front page does seem to imply mods can only sorta block content so it might not be too bad.

Thank you for suggesting this.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

#45

In a tolerant society, should we tolerate intolerance? I am genuinely interested to hear your thoughts.

Yes, of course. This is presented as if it's some deep philosophical conundrum, when it's not.

An example: I'm gay and I have had friends that didn't agree with me in supporting gay marriage. One was an ultra-orthodox Jew that was my coworker, and we would disagree on just about everything politically, but we still managed to tolerate each other and even become friends. This is what should happen in a tolerant society.

Should we ban guys like him from Twitter if he decides to tweet against gay marriage? No, we shouldn't. We should tolerate his intolerance and have an open and honest debate.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

#46
post #5

"You see, freedom of speech and expression must be absolute." This is a very ignorant take on freedom of speech and a terrible foundation for your project.

Care to elaborate? How do you protect against abuse of any exceptions in the long term? Why do you characterise absolute freedom of speech as an "ignorant" take, which could be construed as a bad-faith discussion tactic on here.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

#47
post #10

Will it prevent blocking others from replying to counter irrational, unreasonable thinking - or say, if someone's promoting violence - can others be able to comment to try to quell, calm the anger - or will individuals be able to censor whomever they like which is arguably as bad as deplatforming?

>What is fundamentally different with Pepe is moderation. Instead of relying on a centralized entity with a banhammer, each board and thread owner may anonymously moderate their spaces on their own. However, nothing can actually be deleted, it can only be shadowed, and each user decides whether they want to see the light or the full version of the page at any moment in time. People can still reply to shadowed posts i…

This begs the question, which is the default: light or full. You cannot claim to support freedom of speech and have this capacity in my opinion. It is implicitly saying some voices are less valid.

It is an interesting project technically, but I do not think it will replace the *chan model for edgy people to be edgy on the internet. If your opinions are so extreme that you feel that you must be anonymous and free from repercussions, they may be terrible opinions in the eyes of society.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

#48
When the message board begins to organize an effort to occupy the Whitehouse by force, to raise the flags of Trumpistan, therefore deleting all freedom of speech and the almighty dollar in favor of trumpcoin, it might be valid to shut em down.

Re: Frustrated with Parler deplatforming, I am building a service no one can silence

#49
Can anyone comment on the actual technical merit of this project? This seems like a kind of hybrid among other various distributed networks out there, like IPFS, Tor, Freenet, GNUnet, Zeronet, et alia.

As for the political side... just remember that amoral selfish people with reprehensible values are entitled to the same rights as the rest of us, and we should be applauding their desire to build tools that benefit everyone.

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