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Re: Find a person's profile across 350 social media sites

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post #75

I'm so sick of morons open sourcing abuse tools under the guise of "helping". This tool will be misused to abuse and harass more than anything else. Making these tools available to masses is dangerous.

What are "abuse tools"? Trying to suppress knowledge is never the answer. That would mean that only those in the know can either protect themselves or exploit others. The "never put information about yourself on the internet" mantra from before social media needs a comeback and it will not happen if no one shines a light on how easy it is to track people online.

> Trying to suppress knowledge is never the answer

Right, if only cutting edge nuclear/bio/chemical/cyber technology was a github repo away.

Re: Find a person's profile across 350 social media sites

#92

I'm so sick of morons open sourcing abuse tools under the guise of "helping". This tool will be misused to abuse and harass more than anything else. Making these tools available to masses is dangerous.

How would it be any better if it was a paid product? A determined bully can still buy it.

Re: Find a person's profile across 350 social media sites

#93
post #75

I'm so sick of morons open sourcing abuse tools under the guise of "helping". This tool will be misused to abuse and harass more than anything else. Making these tools available to masses is dangerous.

What are "abuse tools"? Trying to suppress knowledge is never the answer. That would mean that only those in the know can either protect themselves or exploit others. The "never put information about yourself on the internet" mantra from before social media needs a comeback and it will not happen if no one shines a light on how easy it is to track people online.

Okay, but assuming thats true, there are ways to make it clear to someone how easy it is to track them online without enabling people to actually do that tracking themselves so easily.

Re: Find a person's profile across 350 social media sites

#94
post #75

I'm so sick of morons open sourcing abuse tools under the guise of "helping". This tool will be misused to abuse and harass more than anything else. Making these tools available to masses is dangerous.

What are "abuse tools"? Trying to suppress knowledge is never the answer. That would mean that only those in the know can either protect themselves or exploit others. The "never put information about yourself on the internet" mantra from before social media needs a comeback and it will not happen if no one shines a light on how easy it is to track people online.

So if I put up a website at doxsyoc.com with your email address, phone numbers, home address, credit card details, social security number, daily schedule, bank statements and employment information you would presumably not try to have it removed because "Trying to suppress knowledge is never the answer".

Re: Find a person's profile across 350 social media sites

#95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Exactly. BUT, this may bring awareness to regular folks. You can also use it to remove your own stuff from said networks because people do not catalogue their online activity and it can be hard to remove your digital footprint.

I'd pay for a service that would do this, 1. Find my digital footprints on social media 2. Compare that to my desired level of public activity, e.g., do not share photos of me 3. Provide tools to delete, scrub, send takedowns, etc.

4. Hope they don't keep their own backup copies for later use :-P

Re: Find a person's profile across 350 social media sites

#96
post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But this is not a problem with the tool, this is a problem with those platforms. Even if this tool is not published, bad actors can still make their own tools. I think we should rather demand the platforms to enforce better measures against this kind of usage, rather than blaming this tool.

Maybe we should do both. I take an issue with the argument that bad actors can make their own tools. Bad actors can also build their own nuclear weapons, genetically engineer their own deadly diseases but there's certainly value in not making this any easier. If you take the time, money and effort away from bad actors by forcing them to reinvent the wheel, that's a good thing. Granted, this logic can't be viably appl…

> Granted, this logic can't be viably applied to most things,…

This specific thing, for example.

> ... but there are projects where you can assume that most of the use-cases will be shady.

An assumption is a poor basis for an argument. Even in the case where the assumption turns out to be correct, I don't buy this line of reasoning, because it would apply generally to security tools. Such reasoning also makes it far easier to attack things even where the assumption is known to be wrong (e.g. bittorrent).

Re: Find a person's profile across 350 social media sites

#99

I think that anyone developing a social media app for the 2020s will need to make a conscious decision to not let users pick their own unique identifiers. You can't expect users to protect themselves, because you don't know what dangers might exist in the future for them that do not exist today. The other thing you can do is not allow your API to iterate over the set of all users by user-set identifier. It's an extre…

Userids are only one of thousands of signals that can identify accounts

Re: Find a person's profile across 350 social media sites

#100
I’m surprised by the backlash regarding this tool. Well, I guess surprised is the wrong word. I get that it is creepy. There are lots of websites that do this very thing like whatsmyname.app.

I personally like running my username through tools like this and aggregating my digital presence. When I was younger, I signed up for lots of sites that were the cool, new thing. Checking myself years later, I am shocked by the wide berth I left. Fitness accounts. Accounts from that time I was getting into studying chess. I’m the type of person who is always on to the next hobby. I go 100% in on something, then pop to the next thing. It was a big wake up call to me looking back seeing how much presence I left. Many accounts are so old I can’t even get into them anymore to clean up what’s out there. Tools like this can be used for good.

That said, I totally understand the cyber stalking/bullying concerns. I am also astounded by the cyber sleuth types. In the documentary, Don’t F* with Cats, people spent 100s of hours carefully walking through streets in Google Maps to match a location to a photo they had of a guy who killed a cat on YouTube. It seems to me where there’s a will, there’s a way. It’s scary, and unfortunately a lot of tools we can use to protect ourselves are the same tools that can be used against us. Look at cyber security in general. A black hat and a white hat are people with the same skills, but ethics draw a line between them.

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