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Raiders of the Lost Ark as a Black-and-White Silent Film (2014)

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Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark as a Black-and-White Silent Film (2014)

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Post by ggm »

ironchief wrote: post #20
ggm wrote: post #19

Great film made by people who had long history of making great films. "Rushes" or rapid prints of the days shooting were b&w and I have no idea if that changed, but as high contrast pushed (speedy development) review footage maybe just mechanistically it influenced shot design? There's another doc somebody did analysing raiders and treasure of the sierra madre shot by shot.

Do you have the link to the documentary?

https://archive.org/details/antoniamackenzie_gmail_0

Isn't loading fast enough for me to be sure this is the one. Its a comparison, and interesting.

Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark as a Black-and-White Silent Film (2014)

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Post by ggm »

ggm wrote: post #21
ironchief wrote: post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Do you have the link to the documentary?

https://archive.org/details/antoniamackenzie_gmail_0 Isn't loading fast enough for me to be sure this is the one. Its a comparison, and interesting.

Its not. Its good but the one I'm thinking of runs side by side sequences to show how framing was related.

Turns out it's a "premake" mashup of raiders, and an amalgam of 1950s era movies. Including i believe "treasure of the incas"

https://youtu.be/eE9-FcJnQGA is a shot comparison somebody put together.

I misremembered two things.

Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark as a Black-and-White Silent Film (2014)

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Post by JKCalhoun »

Just an aside: I was amused when someone pointed out that the plot of "Raiders" would have reached the same climatic end if Indiana Jones were completely removed from the script.

I have noticed too that "This Island Earth" (if you know this old classic sci-fi film) is another such script in which the protagonist could be removed with no change in the outcome.

Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark as a Black-and-White Silent Film (2014)

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Post by lai-yin »

germinalphrase wrote: post #15
keiferski wrote: post #9

Oh, and I’ve removed all sound and color from the film, apart from a score designed to aid you in your quest to just study the visual staging aspect. Note that the music is only intended to be filler. Otherwise, watching this in black and white really made obvious how well staged and choreographed the film is. I don’t consider myself much of a Spielberg fan, but I was impressed. If the music bothers you, try the sect…

I think Jaws holds up very well, too. It is a wonderful transitional film between classic and new Hollywood shot tempo and visual style.

I know this is an easy downvote and foolish statement, but I find very few pre-90s blockbuster movies to be watchable. Spielberg's movies hold up well though. There are a few others, like When Harry Met Sally, that I also still love.

Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark as a Black-and-White Silent Film (2014)

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Post by maxerickson »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #23

Just an aside: I was amused when someone pointed out that the plot of "Raiders" would have reached the same climatic end if Indiana Jones were completely removed from the script. I have noticed too that "This Island Earth" (if you know this old classic sci-fi film) is another such script in which the protagonist could be removed with no change in the outcome.

The bad guys may not have ever found the ark without the information on the other side of the amulet.

Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark as a Black-and-White Silent Film (2014)

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Post by JKCalhoun »

maxerickson wrote: post #25
JKCalhoun wrote: post #23

Just an aside: I was amused when someone pointed out that the plot of "Raiders" would have reached the same climatic end if Indiana Jones were completely removed from the script. I have noticed too that "This Island Earth" (if you know this old classic sci-fi film) is another such script in which the protagonist could be removed with no change in the outcome.

The bad guys may not have ever found the ark without the information on the other side of the amulet.

But they would have had the amulet.

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Post by TigeriusKirk »

As the page header suggests, this is the work of Steven Soderbergh. He went through a phase of doing several exercises along these lines and posting them to his blog. Intercutting the original Psycho with its remake. Recutting the famous flop Heaven's Gate entirely. He also recut 2001, but took it down at the request of the Kubrick estate.

His Heaven's Gate is pretty good if you get the time to watch it - https://extension765.com/blogs/soderblog/heavens-gate-the-bu...

Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark as a Black-and-White Silent Film (2014)

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Post by macintux »

JKCalhoun wrote: post #26
maxerickson wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The bad guys may not have ever found the ark without the information on the other side of the amulet.

But they would have had the amulet.

Except he led them to the amulet in the first place.

Indiana Jones a Nazi collaborator? Film at 11.

Re: Raiders of the Lost Ark as a Black-and-White Silent Film (2014)

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Post by aidenn0 »

macintux wrote: post #29
JKCalhoun wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But they would have had the amulet.

Except he led them to the amulet in the first place. Indiana Jones a Nazi collaborator? Film at 11.

The Nazis found the amulet independently; at least that was always my interpretation. There was no indication I could find that the Nazi in Tibet followed Jones.
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