I really appreciate focused news sites like avherald. Just the facts, a collection of photos and videos, straightforward. The video of the landing & the passengers cheering—- that huge sigh of relief. Brings a smile to my face.
What, you don’t like the anchor people on TV asking each other how they feel about every piece of news and making horrible puns at every opportunity? Or having expected announcements be reported as BREAKING NEWS?
United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine
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Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine
#132Lucky it didn’t happen half way. Could have been several hours on one engine and the other one shaking and on fire.
Luckily flight plans are always required to be within a certain number of minutes of a place to land, and are certified to operate on one engine for that period. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/ETOPS
Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine
#133Recording of the ATC https://twitter.com/ryancaustin1/status/1363236118657957895?... Video of the flying debris https://twitter.com/jacdecnew/status/1363241028690599938?s=2...
Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine
#134I am 110% certain that if I saw a plane on fire in the sky, I would not have the presence of mind to remember the term "cloud deck", let alone the rest of those details.
Ground observer: "Good sir, I do say that the cloud deck was quite low so I didn't get a good look, but the engine was mildly louder than usual, and possibly had smoke, but perhaps not, and appeared to be under control the whole time."
Me, probably: "AAAAAAAAAAAAA PLANE ON FIRE IN THE SKY, RUN!!!"
Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine
#135Considering how rare an occurrence is, it's really weird to have both happen on the exact same day.
https://www.airlive.net/breaking-turbine-blades-of-a-boeing-...
By the way I'm surprised that fire keeps going on the B772. I assume the fuel was cut off, especially as the turbine seems to be just spinning in the wind. I'd imagine the remaining fuel would burn off quickly?
This would really be scary being a passenger (especially when you know the wing it's hanging under is full of fuel).
Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine
#136Earlier quoted context omitted.
By having airports on islands, or by pushing up the number of minutes that the engines/operator are certified for.
For transatlantic flights, two important "backups" are in Iceland and in the Azores. I wonder how often airplanes actually have to detour to these airports...
The view coming in to Keflavik, with whales swimming in the ocean below, was pretty cool.
Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine
#137Earlier quoted context omitted.
I think the answer is don't watch TV news if you can help it. If 100% of their revenue comes from ads, then their incentives are clear: keep you watching no matter what. The way I see it, written news at least has a wider range of options, and the subscription model means they have slightly less incentive to be so manipulative.
Yep agree absolutely. I probably read 5-10 different global media a day normally online. I rarely watch TV news but it was sort of an experiment I guess. Wow some of the stuff on places like Newsmax made Fox look like The Guardian.
The Guardian has a slant, but nearly every news outlet will have some slant, either by coverage or through omission. But it's certainly a lot worse at Newsmax and OAN.
EDIT: accidentally said "doesn't have"
Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine
#138Earlier quoted context omitted.
For the uninformed: V1: Speed at which the take off attempt should no longer be aborted Vr: Speed at which the plane should be pitched up (rotated) V2: Speed at which the plane can safely climb with one engine If an engine fails after V1 the runway is supposed to have sufficient length that you can hit Vr, rotate, and be 35 feet off the ground and traveling at V2 before you run out of tarmac even with a single engine…
Fair enough and my memory may be fuzzy but I see quite a few references to V1 as being the minimum single engine takeoff speed. https://skybrary.aero/bookshelf/books/493.pdf (page 2)
This should happen within moments of hitting Vr, but being single-engine after V1 means you went from hitting Vr halfway down the runway to potentially doing so at the ass-end of your minimum runway length. This means you have basically no room for any pilot error or other failures, and why engine failure on take-off is routinely rehearsed.
Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine
#139That's crazy, in the Netherlands today there was another flight that dropped engine parts (much smaller though, they're said to have been turbine blades) that hit cars and people. It was also an airliner (747-400). Considering how rare an occurrence is, it's really weird to have both happen on the exact same day. https://www.airlive.net/breaking-turbine-blades-of-a-boeing-... By the way I'm surprised that fire keeps…
Re: United B772 at Denver on Feb 20th 2021, engine inlet separates from engine
#140You can hear the air/ground communications for this flight here via LiveATC.net. The pilots declare an emergency and then a mayday call beginning at 1:15 of the audio. https://forums.liveatc.net/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1...
I might look for the link later, but there's an incident with a Youtube reconstruction where a private pilot is nearly out of fuel, the weather is poor, and he's approaching a USAF base en route to his last hope landing site. Airbases are military facilities, closed to civilian traffic. He asks the controller if he can land there. She says he can't... unless it's an emergency.
He should say "Yes, this is an emergency, I'm on fumes here and the weather is much worse than I expected". She'd turn on the airfield's powerful landing lights, and maybe he'd spend the evening explaining his screw up and apologising to a base commander or at worst spend the night in a cell. Nobody dies. Instead he pressed on, and his dire situation only became clear to her when it was too late and he was already doomed.